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Fighter's ZPM (Zero Point Module) failed replication by Itsu

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Itsu posted this 07 November 2022

Hello all,

i opened this thread to discuss my replication of Fighter's ZPE (Zero Point Module).

I already opened a similar thread on OUR.com (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4374.msg101654#msg101654 ), but will transfer some data from there to here.

Initially i understood that the below diagram was correct and complete, but it turns out its not.
There is a ground connection somewhere, but i am not sure where it is exactly, hopefully someone can tell me.
The MOSFET is shown wrong as the Drain and Source should be swapped, which was corrected later in Fighter his thread so therefor the mentioning in red.

I have build up a similar circuit and the data is shown here: 
(Be aware that the induction measurement was done at 10kHz, but due to the influence of the metglas core it can be (and is) completly different on other frequencies, see my thread on OUR.com for a VNA scan of the coil/core)

 

I am using a 12V battery for now as my PS (minus NOT grounded) was acting weird due to all the pulses coming back from the ZPE device.
Up till now no special effects or resonance in a 0 to 5MHz range are seen with this setup, but as said the grounding may be the problem here.

Itsu

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Itsu posted this 07 November 2022

Hello all,

i opened this thread to discuss my replication of Fighter's ZPE (Zero Point Module).

I already opened a similar thread on OUR.com (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4374.msg101654#msg101654 ), but will transfer some data from there to here.

Initially i understood that the below diagram was correct and complete, but it turns out its not.
There is a ground connection somewhere, but i am not sure where it is exactly, hopefully someone can tell me.
The MOSFET is shown wrong as the Drain and Source should be swapped, which was corrected later in Fighter his thread so therefor the mentioning in red.

I have build up a similar circuit and the data is shown here: 
(Be aware that the induction measurement was done at 10kHz, but due to the influence of the metglas core it can be (and is) completly different on other frequencies, see my thread on OUR.com for a VNA scan of the coil/core)

 

I am using a 12V battery for now as my PS (minus NOT grounded) was acting weird due to all the pulses coming back from the ZPE device.
Up till now no special effects or resonance in a 0 to 5MHz range are seen with this setup, but as said the grounding may be the problem here.

Itsu

zpm
Fighter posted this 18 December 2022

the other one from vishay's site. we have rectangle pulses as input in our devices. that's our only input energy.

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Shelfordella posted this 18 December 2022

This one? 

https://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Inductor-Current-Power-Calculator.phtml

Why should one use the rms current of 0.292a for Isat? Isat should be an instanteneous current, not an rms average. Try 1.09A.

The other calulator only calculates for square wave signals without an I-L current ramp.

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Fighter posted this 17 December 2022

For God's sake....

I said try the online calculator and you will see the results are the same with Jagau's calculation method !

I don't care about your conclusion, that calculator will show you the right conclusion !

Fighter

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Shelfordella posted this 17 December 2022

Quoting:Fighter

Quoting:Shelfordella

Itsu calculates the power correctly by using the math function, plotting it on the red channel and taking the average. I think Jagau has made a mistake when calculating the power using math by hand. He could try the same as Itsu: include 24V, PSU current, and use the math and avg function.

 

If you want to understand more just check Dr. Nastase's papers online.

So for me this is already clear: Jagau's calculation method is valid.

Regards,

Fighter

This one, right?

https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-triangle-waveform/

I agree 100% with the paper, it's this paper led me to conclude that 0.292 x 24 x sqrt 0.382 / sqrt 3 is wrong and 0.292 x 24 x sqrt 0.382 is right.

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Fighter posted this 16 December 2022

Quoting:Shelfordella

Itsu calculates the power correctly by using the math function, plotting it on the red channel and taking the average. I think Jagau has made a mistake when calculating the power using math by hand. He could try the same as Itsu: include 24V, PSU current, and use the math and avg function.

Jagau's method of calculation can be made manually using the formulas but there is also the calculator on Vishay's site using the same method of calculation.

Try it, you'll see the results are the same:

https://www.vishay.com/en/resistors/pulse-energy-calculator/

Why just talking so much about this and not just verifying with the online calculator present on the site of Vishay - a very professional manufacturer of electronic components ? It's just a matter of minutes to check.

I checked this from the beginning and the results were the same for the manual calculation and for the online calculator.

If you want to understand more just check Dr. Nastase's papers online.

So for me this is already clear: Jagau's calculation method is valid.

It was also verified and confirmed by other members of our core team before Jagau came public with it. Including Yoel. Jagau is a very careful researcher. He asked for double-checks here and also the experts in real life before deciding to move the info in our public section.

So just let's move on, sorry for being blunt but this discussion already took too much time, if there are some who are still not convinced that's not our responsability to convince them all.

Regards,

Fighter

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Shelfordella posted this 16 December 2022

I'm afraid it isn't COP 2, because:

Pin= 0.292a x 24 x sqrt 0.382 / sqrt 3 = 2.533 watts

should be:

Pin= 0.292a x 24 x sqrt 0.382 = 4,33 watts

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bigmotherwhale posted this 16 December 2022

How are these the same? Show me the overshoot or ringdown on itsus scope shots here. The only time i have seen any traces of this are at the start of his replication before he started increasing the resistance and inductance of his source and not compensating for it with a large enough capacitor. IMO.

How are we still talking about this? its history now, how about we move on and try and conduct experiments that lead to an understanding of the fundementals, we are never going power the world with COP of 2.

It seems whoever wants discord in these groups suceeds very easily, this is becomming like a soap opera.  

cd_sharp posted this 15 December 2022

Guys,

I personally do not care about OU.com. Everyone there can say anything. But they should not come here to destroy our harmony. We do serious research here. Anyone that is disrespectful, lying and trying to create chaos is not welcome.

Research needs a great state of mind and peace. We'll keep the peace. We will not consume resources by arguing with such individuals. We'll just kick them out quickly.

We have better things to do, like research.

Stay strong!

If you know how to build such a device and you're not sharing, you're a schmuck! - Graham Gunderson

Fighter posted this 15 December 2022

Talking about integrity and good intentions, this is what Itsu is telling to his buddies on their forum:

So he says he got banned because he failed replication.

He "forgot" to say about his multiple attacks agains Jagau, about the personal messages he sent asking our members to go public against Jagau and to say his calculation method is wrong, about the "get over it" attitude, about doing exactly the opposite while trying to replicate ZPM, about jumping to measurements and calculating COP even if his device was not functioning properly just to achieve his pre-established "conclusion" he came here for disinformation purposes.

Also he is lying that people get banned here when they fail replications. Really ?... How many members were banned here because of that ? Please tell me just one. Because he was banned for other reasons specified above.

So he have no problem with Jagau, he permanently attacked him even before joining our forum just because of friendship I suppose.

Also he "forgot" to say to his friends that he actually started calculating also the COP while the input reduction effect was not present.

Then he is lying that I'm the only one who reproduced the input reduction effect even if he saw with his own eyes (like everyone else)  the input reduction effect presented in Atti's video about his successful ZPM replication.

So this was just an honest researcher, unbiased, professional, coming here to get more details, to replicate ZPM and to evaluate its COP, isn't ?... šŸ˜‰

This is the kind of "researchers" (how they present themselves) on that overunity site.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Fighter posted this 14 December 2022

And seems we have a wannabe cheerleader here:

It seems they have no legs to stand on! Everyone now see's the behaviour and is very well aware of the Toxicity of their actions!

Shame this behaviour is not what is preached and we still see attacks by the very same people even today! Double Standards!

Best Wishes,

   Chris

Shut your mouth, you can read again your lies, your trash and your disinformation here:

https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/

You're not different than them, enjoy your reading if you have memory problems... šŸ˜„

Fighter

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