During the vacation I tried different configurations to use the voltage and almost no current provided by the cells:
I'm taking with me two quantum cells, a bunch of electronic components, some small ferrite cores, a multimeter, a pocket oscilloscope and a breadboard plus connectors for it.
I'll finally have more time for experiments with these cells.
The reason I didn't posted updates is the experiments I've made were not successful.
The amount of electronic components I took with me was very limited so the configurations I tried were limited too.
Now I'll continue to experiment with these cells, I still have a few more ideas.
Even if the current is almost 0 there is still voltage provided by the cells and that's energy which certainly can be used somehow.
I'll post updates when I'll have relevant results.
Regards,
Fighter
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of
energy, frequency and
vibration."
I dedicated this entire weekend trying different ideas for using the voltage provided by the cells.
I wasn't able to obtain any current with that voltage.
I even tried with a Joule-Thief I've built. I know the Joule-Thief is using current to boost voltage so in this situation it was unlikely to work but I thought it's worth a try:
It didn't worked, the LED was off.
One thing I noticed is the cells can boost the voltage of dead accumulators. I have some 1.5 V AA and AAA rechargable batteries which are very old (a few years of use) and my charges are showing them as defective and are not able to charge them anymore.
So when I put one of those in series with a cell (and a non-polarized capacitor in parallel with their output) there is some kind of symbiosis between them, meaning the battery is providing some current and the cell is providing extra-voltage so they can power 1-2 LEDs for a long time.
In this image the rechargable battery have about 1.2 V:
But seems in time the voltage is slowly decreasing, about 1-2 mV within 12 hours so I guess it's not gonna run forever. Even if this configuration gives the capability to power 1-2 LEDs (which the battery itself could not do) and probably a much longer time than the energy of the battery itself would do.
One last experiment I intend to try is to let a cell load a capacitor and to use a transistor commanded by my signal generator to discharge that capacitor at some intervals in a resistor to see how much voltage and (if any) current is in those discharges. Maybe that could make a LED blink at some intervals, that would be a way to use cells' voltage.
I'll see how it goes, I need to find some time to prepare build the circuit and to do the experiment.
Other than that, for now I'm kind of out of ideas so I will put these experiments on hold. Maybe in time I will find possible ways to use these cells.
I dedicated a lot of time building and experimenting with these cells, it's time to continue with my DSE experiment.
In parallel with the prepation of this last experiment with the cells I'll start building that customized capacitor and prepare the next experiments with my DSE device.
Regards,
Fighter
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of
energy, frequency and
vibration."
Posting an update with an experiment I've done in the weekend.
What I wanted to see is if the most powerful cell can mantain a electrolytic capacitor charged while it's peridically discharged when its voltage is going above ~0.563 V.
For that I was using a Toshiba 1SV149 varactor according to the ChatGPT discussion here. The only change from that discussion is I've used an electrolytic (polarized) capacitor, I've tried with a non-polarized capacitor too but I saw no difference in behavior.
This is the schematic I used:
When the resistor is disconnected (not consuming any energy from the capacitor) the cell is charging the capacitor to ~1.28 V:
But when I'm discharging a part of the energy into the resistor (when the voltage in capacitor goes above ~0.563 V) the cell is capable to maintain the capacitor charged at ~0.563 V as you can see in this video:
As you can see the random and fast fluctuations are still present and the scope still can't get a lock on them so the parameters shown by the scope are not really useful.
I've left this experiment running for 24 hours and the cell was still maintaing the voltage of the capacitor at ~0.563 V. The cell's performance is not affected, when I disconnected the resistor the cell is still able to slowly charge the capacitor at ~1.28 V as before those 24 hours.
What I want to try is to replace the varactor with a transistor commanded by my signal generator so I can discharge the capacitor at various frequencies and see how much energy I can extract from the capacitor while the cell is still able to recharge it and to maintain its voltage constant.
I'm trying to find time to prepare this experiment.
I'll come with updates.
Regards,
Fighter
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of
energy, frequency and
vibration."
I insisted more with different ideas but so far the status is no-go...
So I have this cell which is still providing about 1.26 V but the main problem is there is no current.
It's charging capacitors but by discharging those capacitors I can't get a single LED blink. Which is strange because discharging capacitors means there should be also current.
Maybe I did something wrong during the experiments or maybe there was an imperfect contact because I'm using a testing board and testing connectors (which are not very reliable) but for now I'm really putting this on hold and get back to building the customized capacitor for my DSE experiment because I've put that experiment on hold for too long.
I'll keep thinking about how to use this cell because it's more challenging than I imagined. For now it just stays there providing 1.26 V like a challenge to me... ❓🔋❓
Regards,
Fighter
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of
energy, frequency and
vibration."
As I said in my post here I come with a status update for my quantum cell replicas.
After one year since they became functional (according to this post) they are still providing voltage (even if they are not powerful as they were one year ago) which I consider remarcable.
This is how they look now where I kept them under observation:
And just like I did one year ago I'm posting their current voltages.
This is the 1st generation:
And this is the 2nd generation:
I checked them carefully, I didn't found any corrosion signs on any of their electrodes, at least not on the edges of the electrodes where they are making contact with the solidified solution. For now I don't want to break them just to look inside but I guess if inside would be corrosion it would be visible near those edges too.
The most powerful now is the cell made with carbon felt, magnesium, PEG and polymer beads, #5 in the image above.
The solidified solution is looking now like a quartz-crystal.
About this one, I think I broke it, so its real voltage should be higher.
Let me explain. About 3 weeks ago it had about 1.15V but I had a problem with the copper foil providing electrical contact to the magnesium electrode. The aligator clips I used in time to connect the cell to the multimeter damaged the foil and the contact was sporadic. Because of that I decided to take a metalic pin and to insert it between the plastic and the magnesium electrode so I can have a ferm contact. Since then cell's voltage dropped to about 0.8-0.9V.
I don't have a explanation about the exact cause of the voltage drop but I have two hypotesis:
The crystal-like core broke in that area when I inserted the metalic pin even if I didn't inserted it in the core directly but on the outside of the magnesium electrode;
That area of the magnesium electrode was exposed to air by the insertion of the metalic pin, before there was no air because the tight plastic wall was preventing the air to have contact with the electrode; that could mean exposing a bigger surface of the magnesium electrode to the air could make the voltage drop ? I cannot confirm this hypotesis right now without damaging the cell so I'll keep it in mind as a hypotesis for now.
These are two photos of the voltage of the cell before (about 3 weeks ago) and now:
So I think the real voltage of this cell is actually 1.15V. If after one year it was providing this voltage it's safe to assume this is its real potential and it's no coincidence that the voltage dropped after I inserted that metalic pin.
But this is not a problem. Because it's nthe most powerful and it's validated in time I'll build another one as the 4rd generation and I'll try to find another solution to have electrical contact to the magnesium electrode, seems the copper foil was not a good idea.
Now you noticed near this cell there is a bottle of Sodium-Silicate (called also Water Glass), in the 4rd generation I intend to build a few cells using this because Joel experimented with this solution too.
Here is the video where he is talking about this:
So this is the status update of my experiments with the quantum cells.
I will add updates here as soon as I'll be able to continue with the 4th generation.
Regards,
Fighter
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of
energy, frequency and
vibration."
