Teslas self-acting engine

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Vidura posted this 19 August 2024

Teslas self-acting Engine?

The thermodynamic device described below Is really a curiosity, I found the description many years ago in a publication by Patric Kelly, who did a very extended journalistic work on the so-called free energy devices. This one called really my attention.

In contrast to the conventional and well-known machines as the Stirling motor or the thermoacoustic resonator this weird motor does not need a cold pole to work.

Lately several videos from Peter Lindemann have been released to general public, here I learned about Teslas idea to tap into the vast thermal energy contained in the atmosphere with the self-acting engine. It seems that there are uncountable of devices already made and continued in manufacturing, only they are intended for another purpose: burning fossil fuels!

It was reported that some researchers had worked with four stroke IC engines. Their identity was not exposed, therefore I don’t know to whom give the credit for this work.  They had removed the carburettor and ignition system from a small engine of approximately 300ccm displacement and injected water mist into the intake. After several tries the motor started to run. They stated that it was not easy to start, but once succeeded, the motor continued rotating at idling speed. The ambient temperature was around 25 degrees C, and the exhaust temperature was measured at -8 degrees C. It has been stated that the size of the water mist droplets had to be adjusted to get the effect and the engine had to be at ambient temperature.  

I will give a possible explanation of the thermodynamic principle that could produce such an effect:

In the first stroke of the engine warm ambient air mixed with water mist is taken into the cylinder. In the second stroke the mixture is compressed and therefore the air temperature rises to a few hundred degrees C. The heat is transferred to the water droplets. But as the pressure is high, the droplets can’t evaporate still. In the third stroke the temperature of the air decreases, and simultaneously the (hot) water droplets start evaporating and maintaining the pressure at a higher value during the working stroke. Ideally at final of this stroke all the water would have changed into gaseous state, below the ambient temperature, and is in the fourth cycle expelled to the exhaust. Then the next cycle starts…

Let’s review the important parts of the cycle.

There are two thermodynamic principles to be considered, first the properties of a gaseous medium, which manifests as a proportional relationship between pressure and temperature, also called an adiabatic process. This means simply that the temperature rises when the pressure of the medium increases, and vice versa. The second principle relates to the properties of a medium when it changes its state of aggregation. It is known, that a medium in liquid state of aggregation do not have the proportional relationship between temperature and pressure mentioned above. Despite of changes of pressure, the temperature of a liquid will not change. But what changes is the point of ebullition (of liquid) and condensation (of vapor). We also know that a transfer of energy occurs with the change of the state of aggregation. One mol of steam contains more energy than one mol of liquid water.

Let us analyse the process in this context:

The energy to be harnessed is contained in the warm ambient air and the water mist at ambient temperature. During the cycle of compression, the pressure in the cylinder increases, and also the temperature of the air. The water droplets(liquid) do not heat up cause of the increased pressure, but they absorb the heat energy of the compressed air. There is a transfer of energy from the gaseous medium to the liquid droplets. When the piston passed the upper dead point the pressure starts to decrease, and the hot water droplets evaporate. This causes that the pressure becomes asymmetric in relation to the compression cycle, which means that during the working cycle the pressure will be sustained at a higher value for a longer period of time due to the evaporation of the droplets. In this part of the process the expanding air, which has transferred its thermal energy to the water droplets, cools down to a lower temperature than that of the ambient. Simultaneously the evaporating droplets transform the retained heat energy in pressure, causing the propulsion of the piston. From the exhaust the cold air mixed with water vapor (still in gaseous state) is expelled.

If the concept can be proved as valid, it would be straightforward to develop adequate engineer solutions for practical implementations.

Hopefully it will be of some practical use or as instructive example.

Regards 

Vidura

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Vidura posted this 19 August 2024

Teslas self-acting Engine?

The thermodynamic device described below Is really a curiosity, I found the description many years ago in a publication by Patric Kelly, who did a very extended journalistic work on the so-called free energy devices. This one called really my attention.

In contrast to the conventional and well-known machines as the Stirling motor or the thermoacoustic resonator this weird motor does not need a cold pole to work.

Lately several videos from Peter Lindemann have been released to general public, here I learned about Teslas idea to tap into the vast thermal energy contained in the atmosphere with the self-acting engine. It seems that there are uncountable of devices already made and continued in manufacturing, only they are intended for another purpose: burning fossil fuels!

It was reported that some researchers had worked with four stroke IC engines. Their identity was not exposed, therefore I don’t know to whom give the credit for this work.  They had removed the carburettor and ignition system from a small engine of approximately 300ccm displacement and injected water mist into the intake. After several tries the motor started to run. They stated that it was not easy to start, but once succeeded, the motor continued rotating at idling speed. The ambient temperature was around 25 degrees C, and the exhaust temperature was measured at -8 degrees C. It has been stated that the size of the water mist droplets had to be adjusted to get the effect and the engine had to be at ambient temperature.  

I will give a possible explanation of the thermodynamic principle that could produce such an effect:

In the first stroke of the engine warm ambient air mixed with water mist is taken into the cylinder. In the second stroke the mixture is compressed and therefore the air temperature rises to a few hundred degrees C. The heat is transferred to the water droplets. But as the pressure is high, the droplets can’t evaporate still. In the third stroke the temperature of the air decreases, and simultaneously the (hot) water droplets start evaporating and maintaining the pressure at a higher value during the working stroke. Ideally at final of this stroke all the water would have changed into gaseous state, below the ambient temperature, and is in the fourth cycle expelled to the exhaust. Then the next cycle starts…

Let’s review the important parts of the cycle.

There are two thermodynamic principles to be considered, first the properties of a gaseous medium, which manifests as a proportional relationship between pressure and temperature, also called an adiabatic process. This means simply that the temperature rises when the pressure of the medium increases, and vice versa. The second principle relates to the properties of a medium when it changes its state of aggregation. It is known, that a medium in liquid state of aggregation do not have the proportional relationship between temperature and pressure mentioned above. Despite of changes of pressure, the temperature of a liquid will not change. But what changes is the point of ebullition (of liquid) and condensation (of vapor). We also know that a transfer of energy occurs with the change of the state of aggregation. One mol of steam contains more energy than one mol of liquid water.

Let us analyse the process in this context:

The energy to be harnessed is contained in the warm ambient air and the water mist at ambient temperature. During the cycle of compression, the pressure in the cylinder increases, and also the temperature of the air. The water droplets(liquid) do not heat up cause of the increased pressure, but they absorb the heat energy of the compressed air. There is a transfer of energy from the gaseous medium to the liquid droplets. When the piston passed the upper dead point the pressure starts to decrease, and the hot water droplets evaporate. This causes that the pressure becomes asymmetric in relation to the compression cycle, which means that during the working cycle the pressure will be sustained at a higher value for a longer period of time due to the evaporation of the droplets. In this part of the process the expanding air, which has transferred its thermal energy to the water droplets, cools down to a lower temperature than that of the ambient. Simultaneously the evaporating droplets transform the retained heat energy in pressure, causing the propulsion of the piston. From the exhaust the cold air mixed with water vapor (still in gaseous state) is expelled.

If the concept can be proved as valid, it would be straightforward to develop adequate engineer solutions for practical implementations.

Hopefully it will be of some practical use or as instructive example.

Regards 

Vidura

realco posted this 19 August 2024

Por lo que sabemos hay dos máquinas sobre unidad:        1 - el frigorífico

2 - la bomba de calor

Estas dos máquinas forman parte de nuestra vida cotidiana. Habrá más pero no lo sabemos o mejor dicho yo no lo sé.

Ok Vidura. Lo que acabas de comentar (analizar) es exactamente el principio de la bomba de calor, transpuesto en el régimen del motor de combustión (térmica) Por otra parte hay que señalar que la molécula de agua se rompe en los tres átomos por la alta temperatura al final del ciclo de compresión y la chispa generada por el circuito de encendido (alta tensión).

Los tres factores: principio termodinámico, alta temperatura y alto voltaje .... si puede hacer rodar un sistema de cuatro tiempos, pero sólo en el caso de la carburación, y no en los sistemas de inyección.

Si quieres probarlo, sólo tienes que quitar el filtro de aire y rociar agua en el colector de admisión. Verás como el motor acelera. Nada, esta es mi opinión. Te agradezco mucho que te documentes. Como Peter Lindemann.... ¡Hmmm! Tengo que decir que esta es mi opinión personal y pido disculpas si he creado alguna inadvertencia en esto. Necesitaba expresarme en español para hacerme entender un poco mejor ya que no hablo muy bien inglés.

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As far as we know there are two machines in the overunity.       1 - the refrigerator

2 - the heat pump

These two machines are part of our daily life. There will be more but we don't know it or rather I don't know it.

Ok Vidura. What you just commented (analyze) is exactly the principle of the heat pump, transposed in the regime of the combustion engine (thermal) On the other hand it should be noted that the water molecule is broken into the three atoms(two hydrogen and one oxygen)  by the high temperature at the end of the compression cycle and the spark generated by the ignition circuit (high voltage).

The three factors: thermodynamic principle, high temperature and high voltage .... if you can bring a four-stroke system to roll, but only in the case of carburetion, and not in injection systems.

If you want to try it, just remove the air filter and spray water in the intake manifold. You will see how the engine accelerates. Nothing, this is my opinion. I thank you very much for documenting. Like Peter Lindemann.... Hmmm! I have to say that this is my personal opinion and I apologize if I have created any inadvertence in this. I needed to express myself in Spanish to make myself understood a little better since I don't speak English very well.

                                                                realco.

 

 

Vidura posted this 20 August 2024

Replying To: realco

Hola realco, te contesto en español. Tal vez por el idioma se te paso la esencia como funcionaria esta maquina. La primera acotacion es correcta, en el ciclo de compresion trabaja como bomba de calor. Pero en el ciclo de trabajo se observa el funcionamiento como maquina de vapor. No tiene nada que ver con combustion alguna o transformacion de agua en combistible. Es una maquina puramente termodinamica, Y el encendido ha sido removido completamente, no hay alto voltaje. Esta documentado que N.Tesla estaba buscando una solucion tecnica para extraer la energia termica proveido por el sol del atmosfera, y la famosa turbina tesla estaba intentada para este proposito en una maquina termodinamica, pero no tuvo exito con este invento. Por eso parece una ironia del destino que el motor de combustion interna promovido tanto por los carteles de petroleo podria proveer la solucion.

Hi realco, I'm answering you in Spanish. Maybe because of the language you missed the essence of how this machine would work. The first observation is correct, in the compression cycle it works as a heat pump. But in the work cycle you can compare the operation as a steam engine. It has nothing to do with any kind of combustion or transformation of water into fuel. It is a purely thermodynamic machine, and the ignition has been completely removed, there is no high voltage. It is documented that N. Tesla was looking for a technical solution to extract the thermal energy provided by the sun from the atmosphere, and the famous Tesla turbine was attempted for this purpose in a thermodynamic machine, but he was not successful with this invention. That is why it seems an irony of fate that the internal combustion engine promoted so much by the oil cartels could provide the solution.

Vidura

realco posted this 20 August 2024

Thank you Vidura!   Very kind of you. 

                     realco.

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