Beyond Unity - Water-Based Long-Running Device

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Fighter posted this 22 May 2022

Hello,

This is the imported thread (from our secondary forum) about the water-based long-running device which is running continuously since 4th March 2021:

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Fighter

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Fighter posted this 23 May 2022

Thread import is complete, it will be continued from here.

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Fighter

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Fighter posted this 27 May 2022

So with the almost 15 months of continuously running the device is confirmed as long-runner.

I dismatled the device and I intend to rewire it and add probing points in order to show: voltage and current provided by the primary source (the underwater component) and also the current, voltage and waveform received by the LEDs from the Joule-Thief component (link to larger image here):

I cleaned-up the primary source component from the zinc oxide using lemon salt disolved in water.

This is the current state of the zinc plate (link to larger image here):

And this is the current state of the copper mesh, as you can see there is no sign of copper oxide, after one year of being underwater the copper mesh should be completely oxidized by now or at least have a thick green copper oxide layer on it (link to larger image here):

You see there are two pieces of the copper mesh, it should be a single continuous piece but it was damaged by the pieces of zinc oxide accumulating under it, I'll need to solder the two pieces together.

And this is the part where I'll need to add probing points, basically I'll need to get access to the blue wires and green wires (without damaging them), solder additional wires on them and connect those wires to some electric connectors which will be fixed with glue on the metalic surface (link to larger image here):

I'll come with details as I find time to rebuild the device and then with testing data (currents, voltages and waveform).

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Fighter

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Fighter posted this 29 May 2022

I finished soldering the copper mesh (link to larger image here):

Very delicate operation because the copper and its large surface is dissipating my soldering tool's heat very fast so it was not able to melt the solder on the surface of the copper mesh.

I used a more powerful soldering iron and I needed to be careful with the temperature, to keep it high enough to be able to melt the solder and compensate for the heat dissipation but to not be too high to start melting the copper.

I still don't know where I can find more of this kind of copper mesh, who is producing it, what's used for and where I can buy it.

I'll come with updates on the rebuilding and rewiring of the device as I find more time to work on it.

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Jagau posted this 29 May 2022

You will find it in Newark

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Fighter posted this 29 May 2022

Thanks, I'll check that.

I've made a short test with this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08HXXP47R/

And doesn't seem to be okay.

Its structure should be like this:

When looking at a light bulb through it, the light can hardly be seen.

The inventor says it's "copper mesh as fine as possible (with mesh size less than 1 mm)" and it's used for filtering dust and car fuel but didn't said more, I suppose it's produced for car components.

Thanks,

Fighter

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Fighter posted this 29 May 2022

Mine is just a prototype.

There are new versions, the inventor says they're using new materials which makes them run much longer:

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Fighter posted this 18 June 2022

As I promised I've made the measurements but I'm not very satisfied on how they worked.

The device is very sensitive to measurement tools, it changes its functionality when they are connected to it.

This is the voltage provided by the primary module/source without having the secondary module conected:

Then I connected the secondary module but when I use the multimeter the LEDs light is diminishing to almost not being visible.

I don't know what's causing this but I continued making the measurements in these conditions.

This is the voltage I measured between the primary module and secondary module when they're connected:

You can see how weak the LEDs are when connecting the multimeter.

And this is the current I measured between the primary module and the secondary module when they're connected:

I'm not sure how accurent the measurements are when the LED's light is not as powerful as usually.

I also tried to get the waveform received by the LEDs from the Joule-Thief module but when I put the oscilloscope's probes on their connections the LEDs are turning off completely and there is no waveform read by oscilloscope.

I'm not sure why the device is behaving like this when measurement tools are connected to it.

I know all measurement tools are using a shunt resistor (or more) for reading, could it be the cause for how the device is behaving when measurement tools are connected to it ?

For now this is as much as I could do in making measurements on this device and presenting them here as I promised.

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Fighter

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Shadow_ posted this 19 June 2022

Each measuring equipment has parasitic elements; What will happen if you connect ~ 15-30 pF and 1MΩ to the circuit

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Fighter posted this 19 June 2022

It's a good idea, thanks !

When I'll find some time I'll search in my electronic components stock to see if I find a capacitor and a resistor with those values.

I'm not sure how I should connect them with each other to simulate a multimeter or an oscilloscope, should they be connected in paralel or in series ?