Is an automatic system possible?

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Atti posted this 30 April 2022

 

Welcome everyone!

 

We have a circuit with an on and off power source.
Now imagine a black box with a structure that provides infinite energy.
So we only have one source of energy coming out.
Can this exist?
The question is what might be in the black box.
Self-feeding structure.
What could this structure be? Can such a structure exist? How can you produce energy? What is energy? What is the mechanism that works continuously (or until exhaustion)? Is it moving or not?
We are always looking for answers to this.
Some people claim to have found the mechanism. There are two kinds of human attitudes.
Some say:
-I show some drawings or some theories. If you can’t do it you are stupid or just TROLL.
-or I'll show you a shot of the structure (maybe some nonsensical drawings) but buy it below. For money.
Yet human curiosity drills our side there.
The little devil sits on our shoulders and is constantly poking with his fork.
That's where the thought rides within us.
In vain. The desire for knowledge has always been the driving force behind man.
Reality doesn't matter just experience.
But what makes it work? Does it really work at all?
I will now outline a series of events. And that’s just an excerpt from my humble experience so far.
I don’t want to line up like quite a few “inventors”.
That is, to say something. It shows a few frames or videos, and then everyone finds out the rest on their own.
Then if it fails, blame everyone.
Let's say it's TROLL.
Let's just talk about everything, not the point.
He tries to show the point but also falsely.
So.

Since I am not an inventor or an over-trained engineer and I have nothing specific, I will only share a few basic thoughts with you.
Full of mistakes, but full of possibilities!
Possibilities that have been discovered by others besides me. This is just a series of thoughts that others have already done during the experiments.
I did some of them again. There is a phenomenon.
-The first and simplest version:

 

2:010 we can see a higher peak reflected in the incoming sine wave. If set correctly, this will reduce the input energy.
I have processed these phenomena. The E.r. shown in my videos.
-Motion of magnetic fields under partial guidance:
Directed primary magnetic field
Directed secondary magnetic field
Directed permanent magnetic field
Iron fuxus
Coil flux (scattered) discrimination.
Closure of magnetic paths by the shortest path.
Resonance.
Reflection (back to source field)
Continuous circular motion.

 

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

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Atti posted this 30 April 2022

 

Welcome everyone!

 

We have a circuit with an on and off power source.
Now imagine a black box with a structure that provides infinite energy.
So we only have one source of energy coming out.
Can this exist?
The question is what might be in the black box.
Self-feeding structure.
What could this structure be? Can such a structure exist? How can you produce energy? What is energy? What is the mechanism that works continuously (or until exhaustion)? Is it moving or not?
We are always looking for answers to this.
Some people claim to have found the mechanism. There are two kinds of human attitudes.
Some say:
-I show some drawings or some theories. If you can’t do it you are stupid or just TROLL.
-or I'll show you a shot of the structure (maybe some nonsensical drawings) but buy it below. For money.
Yet human curiosity drills our side there.
The little devil sits on our shoulders and is constantly poking with his fork.
That's where the thought rides within us.
In vain. The desire for knowledge has always been the driving force behind man.
Reality doesn't matter just experience.
But what makes it work? Does it really work at all?
I will now outline a series of events. And that’s just an excerpt from my humble experience so far.
I don’t want to line up like quite a few “inventors”.
That is, to say something. It shows a few frames or videos, and then everyone finds out the rest on their own.
Then if it fails, blame everyone.
Let's say it's TROLL.
Let's just talk about everything, not the point.
He tries to show the point but also falsely.
So.

Since I am not an inventor or an over-trained engineer and I have nothing specific, I will only share a few basic thoughts with you.
Full of mistakes, but full of possibilities!
Possibilities that have been discovered by others besides me. This is just a series of thoughts that others have already done during the experiments.
I did some of them again. There is a phenomenon.
-The first and simplest version:

 

2:010 we can see a higher peak reflected in the incoming sine wave. If set correctly, this will reduce the input energy.
I have processed these phenomena. The E.r. shown in my videos.
-Motion of magnetic fields under partial guidance:
Directed primary magnetic field
Directed secondary magnetic field
Directed permanent magnetic field
Iron fuxus
Coil flux (scattered) discrimination.
Closure of magnetic paths by the shortest path.
Resonance.
Reflection (back to source field)
Continuous circular motion.

 

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

Atti posted this 30 April 2022

Two coils in a loose coupling (the third is the adapter only)

between the current flows backwards.Only in some cases. This will result in a decrease in power supply current.
This can be clearly seen at 40 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzUMWZ6ZBg&t=1s

The reactive current of the capacitor between the two coils fluctuates in both directions. (we know what will happen if currents and magnetic fields of the same magnitude and direction meet! We also know that a coil can be primary or secondary. Depending on where the current is going)
This can be seen on an external LED indicator (8:20) This phenomenon only exists under load. The load wire resistance (i.e. linear) and D.C. you get tension.
The direction of flow can be clearly seen on the current meter built into the power supply. Charging and then discharging. Here (finally in each arrangement) this phenomenon occurs when the two magnetic fields meet. In this case, the primary coil becomes secondary. So the energy flows back to the power supply.
It's like a swing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SXzp9ZGAXg&t=1s

Some more thoughts on the M.E.G. device. Comments by T.Bearden:

-By shaping the leading edge and trailing edge of the nearly rectangular input pulses we use to input to the primary coil around the core, we can determine the magnitude of the produced E-fields in space surrounding the core.

-However, from the SECOND energy reservoir, we also simultaneously get an input E-field reaction directly from the surrounding space and into that secondary coil. In short, if we carefully time and phase everything by -"adroit switching"- , we can get more energy into that output coil from the E-field in surrounding space, than we get into it from the H-flux inside the core.

-The decisive signature is the deviation of the normal 90 degrees or so phase difference between output voltage and output current. We can produce a "supertransformer" where that phase difference may be as small as two degrees.

 

Well, we know full well that M.E.G. the device is not designed to be a normal transformer. This is why the input drive coils also differ from the normal excitation. The output load is a varistor (or fluorescent which is a negative resistor, that's an important thing!) Which in some cases means a very strong capacitive load. So reactive energy. (The A_B effect is probably just theory, but not proven by anyone)

Now compare the M.E.G. device with the operation of the ferroresonance transformer. Examine both devices. (an old microwave transformer is suitable for this purpose)
The apparent (or reactive) energy will be at least 3-4 times the input energy at a frequency corresponding to an FR transformer. But only if the shunt is in place. (shunt corresponds to a permanent magnet)
When saturated the iron exits the air in flux. This is the M.E.G. device. But the same can be seen in the E.r. also in the videos at the LED indicator.Here I tried to get around the topic thoroughly. The text is not important, the pictures tell a story.
With the FR transformer, the flux cannot escape into the air so easily because it closes through the intervening shunt. So we will have two magnetic fields! And the two magnetic fields know well how they will affect each other.
I gained similar experience during the construction and testing of other permanent magnetic devices. (Árpád Bóday M.D.G generator CA002172240A does not accidentally use two transformers!, Bulgarian incomp generator)
A pm. space is very small, so the capacitor resonant circuit (reactive) amplifies.

In this arrangement, in this space, energy recharging takes place during the course already outlined above. This is already a very significant energy.

I can't say more yet.
Atti.

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

Atti posted this 05 May 2022

Layout with permanent magnet. Reactive power is also strong here in the resonant circuit.

Here are some pictures of the simple design here. The measurement is for information only.

It's just an interesting thing.

So it can be seen that the permanent magnet can be omitted for the same purpose. In these arrangements, there is more reactive energy only on the secondary side. There is no feedback to the primary page here as we have seen it before. Or as in Yolelmicro's layout. So the two issues need to be addressed separately but considered at the same time.

Atti.

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

YoElMiCrO posted this 05 May 2022

Hello everyone.

@ Atti.

If you think so as not to open another thread, in this same one
we deal with the principle by which SBC is able to generate
negative current.

Thank you.

YoElMiCrO.

Fighter posted this 05 May 2022

Hello,

@YoElMiCrO, if you think another thread is necessary feel free to create it.

@Everyone, just choose a correct category for the new threads so we keep the things organized and we can find them easily in the future. Also if you think the existing categories doesn't match the subject of a new thread let us know (Cd_Sharp or me) and we'll create the category for you. Also Sub-Categories can be created (for example: Devices -> With Permanent Magnets), there is full flexibility available in how we can organize the threads. Just let us know what you need to keep the information well-structured

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Atti posted this 17 May 2022

Parametric vibration. Or its effect on the source.

https://av.tib.eu/media/14288

This is seen at 5:20. I experienced something similar. The energy reflections in the videos are some details.Here is just a quick study of the orthogonal arrangement.

 

How the Reactive Power is Transduced into Real Power
We suggest a mechanism which accomplishes the transduction or at least models it. 

https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2011/07/10/extracting.pdf

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

Fighter posted this 17 May 2022

Interesting effect !

Thanks for sharing this experiment, Atti.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Atti posted this 19 May 2022

Thanks YoELMiCrO for the measurement idea. As you can see, with the correct setting, the voltage will increase. This voltage is particularly high for certain barren loads. It is worth considering the electrical version of Veljko Milković's two-stage oscillator.
That is, to incorporate them into these systems as recommended by T.Bearden.

 

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

Atti posted this 04 July 2022

Similarity and essence.  History. Energy reflection.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/static-electromagnetic-transducer.html

First measurement is not a measurement. Second measurement half measurement. Third measurement is a measurement.

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