Is an automatic system possible?

  • 1.5K Views
  • Last Post 12 March 2023
Atti posted this 30 April 2022

 

Welcome everyone!

 

We have a circuit with an on and off power source.
Now imagine a black box with a structure that provides infinite energy.
So we only have one source of energy coming out.
Can this exist?
The question is what might be in the black box.
Self-feeding structure.
What could this structure be? Can such a structure exist? How can you produce energy? What is energy? What is the mechanism that works continuously (or until exhaustion)? Is it moving or not?
We are always looking for answers to this.
Some people claim to have found the mechanism. There are two kinds of human attitudes.
Some say:
-I show some drawings or some theories. If you can’t do it you are stupid or just TROLL.
-or I'll show you a shot of the structure (maybe some nonsensical drawings) but buy it below. For money.
Yet human curiosity drills our side there.
The little devil sits on our shoulders and is constantly poking with his fork.
That's where the thought rides within us.
In vain. The desire for knowledge has always been the driving force behind man.
Reality doesn't matter just experience.
But what makes it work? Does it really work at all?
I will now outline a series of events. And that’s just an excerpt from my humble experience so far.
I don’t want to line up like quite a few “inventors”.
That is, to say something. It shows a few frames or videos, and then everyone finds out the rest on their own.
Then if it fails, blame everyone.
Let's say it's TROLL.
Let's just talk about everything, not the point.
He tries to show the point but also falsely.
So.

Since I am not an inventor or an over-trained engineer and I have nothing specific, I will only share a few basic thoughts with you.
Full of mistakes, but full of possibilities!
Possibilities that have been discovered by others besides me. This is just a series of thoughts that others have already done during the experiments.
I did some of them again. There is a phenomenon.
-The first and simplest version:

 

2:010 we can see a higher peak reflected in the incoming sine wave. If set correctly, this will reduce the input energy.
I have processed these phenomena. The E.r. shown in my videos.
-Motion of magnetic fields under partial guidance:
Directed primary magnetic field
Directed secondary magnetic field
Directed permanent magnetic field
Iron fuxus
Coil flux (scattered) discrimination.
Closure of magnetic paths by the shortest path.
Resonance.
Reflection (back to source field)
Continuous circular motion.

 

Order By: Standard | Newest | Votes
Atti posted this 30 April 2022

 

Welcome everyone!

 

We have a circuit with an on and off power source.
Now imagine a black box with a structure that provides infinite energy.
So we only have one source of energy coming out.
Can this exist?
The question is what might be in the black box.
Self-feeding structure.
What could this structure be? Can such a structure exist? How can you produce energy? What is energy? What is the mechanism that works continuously (or until exhaustion)? Is it moving or not?
We are always looking for answers to this.
Some people claim to have found the mechanism. There are two kinds of human attitudes.
Some say:
-I show some drawings or some theories. If you can’t do it you are stupid or just TROLL.
-or I'll show you a shot of the structure (maybe some nonsensical drawings) but buy it below. For money.
Yet human curiosity drills our side there.
The little devil sits on our shoulders and is constantly poking with his fork.
That's where the thought rides within us.
In vain. The desire for knowledge has always been the driving force behind man.
Reality doesn't matter just experience.
But what makes it work? Does it really work at all?
I will now outline a series of events. And that’s just an excerpt from my humble experience so far.
I don’t want to line up like quite a few “inventors”.
That is, to say something. It shows a few frames or videos, and then everyone finds out the rest on their own.
Then if it fails, blame everyone.
Let's say it's TROLL.
Let's just talk about everything, not the point.
He tries to show the point but also falsely.
So.

Since I am not an inventor or an over-trained engineer and I have nothing specific, I will only share a few basic thoughts with you.
Full of mistakes, but full of possibilities!
Possibilities that have been discovered by others besides me. This is just a series of thoughts that others have already done during the experiments.
I did some of them again. There is a phenomenon.
-The first and simplest version:

 

2:010 we can see a higher peak reflected in the incoming sine wave. If set correctly, this will reduce the input energy.
I have processed these phenomena. The E.r. shown in my videos.
-Motion of magnetic fields under partial guidance:
Directed primary magnetic field
Directed secondary magnetic field
Directed permanent magnetic field
Iron fuxus
Coil flux (scattered) discrimination.
Closure of magnetic paths by the shortest path.
Resonance.
Reflection (back to source field)
Continuous circular motion.

 

Atti posted this 15 December 2022

For a few thoughts, I will continue the replication of Fighter here.
I examined several types of transformers. A small phenomenon can be detected with some, but the Amcc behaved best.
I rewound the entire Amcc20 transformer to rule out the possibility of failure. With the same thread numbers but insulated per line.
The result is the same. But everything is all right.

I have now done the experiment with a battery. The power supply voltage is 32V, the control works from 18V. So NO MAINS VOLTAGE! (This was Itsu's problem)
The oscilloscope, on the other hand, has a network ground. (there is nothing wrong with my electrical network! Residual-current device is 30mA and does not disconnect)
I use this as grounding. But there could be a separate ground probe, whatever.

As you can see, the neon lamp lights up at the common point of L1 and L2 without grounding. You have to find the right setting. The controller placed next to the battery is a good help in the settings. It is a ferrite rod with a few threads and a parallel LED connection. Just like Fighter used. I also added a 50 yA Deprez instrument.
The radiation is clearly visible at certain points. (antenna? transmitter or receiver?) It is amplified by grounding.
Since the core is small, it cannot be heavily loaded. But the effect is still there. It does not go down to zero in all cases.

At this point, I'm not even looking for that, but the current-reducing effect. Also, the current directed back to the battery, as Jagau suggested.

So. If in the correct setting I place the grounding at the common point of L1 and L2, it can be seen that the high voltage appears almost everywhere! (at the end of the video I accidentally touched it and shook it well)
In another setup (I won't show this yet because it's uncertain), a very strange resonance appeared when supplemented with a capacitor. (resonance in resonance) At first I thought that the 50Hz frequency of the network was displayed. But not!
You can see the frequency on the 100 ohm resistor. (output voltage is then displayed)
So far, this setup has only received a pulse, not a variable voltage.

Now consider the MEG generator.
-L1 -L2 common point
- Let's look at the waveforms and voltages given in the patent.
- Let's think about the secondary coils. Let's examine the connections.
-Bearden talks about dead current several times
- what happens if the parasitic capacitance is added to the secondary coils

If the secondary winding becomes the primary winding at some point, it will charge back into the power supply. This also appears in the shape of the current.
I have already experienced this phenomenon in a different arrangement. (see based on previous videos)

 

 

Atti.

Atti posted this 30 April 2022

Two coils in a loose coupling (the third is the adapter only)

between the current flows backwards.Only in some cases. This will result in a decrease in power supply current.
This can be clearly seen at 40 seconds:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RzUMWZ6ZBg&t=1s

 

The reactive current of the capacitor between the two coils fluctuates in both directions. (we know what will happen if currents and magnetic fields of the same magnitude and direction meet! We also know that a coil can be primary or secondary. Depending on where the current is going)
This can be seen on an external LED indicator (8:20) This phenomenon only exists under load. The load wire resistance (i.e. linear) and D.C. you get tension.
The direction of flow can be clearly seen on the current meter built into the power supply. Charging and then discharging. Here (finally in each arrangement) this phenomenon occurs when the two magnetic fields meet. In this case, the primary coil becomes secondary. So the energy flows back to the power supply.
It's like a swing.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SXzp9ZGAXg&t=1s

 

Some more thoughts on the M.E.G. device. Comments by T.Bearden:

-By shaping the leading edge and trailing edge of the nearly rectangular input pulses we use to input to the primary coil around the core, we can determine the magnitude of the produced E-fields in space surrounding the core.

-However, from the SECOND energy reservoir, we also simultaneously get an input E-field reaction directly from the surrounding space and into that secondary coil. In short, if we carefully time and phase everything by -"adroit switching"- , we can get more energy into that output coil from the E-field in surrounding space, than we get into it from the H-flux inside the core.

-The decisive signature is the deviation of the normal 90 degrees or so phase difference between output voltage and output current. We can produce a "supertransformer" where that phase difference may be as small as two degrees.

 

Well, we know full well that M.E.G. the device is not designed to be a normal transformer. This is why the input drive coils also differ from the normal excitation. The output load is a varistor (or fluorescent which is a negative resistor, that's an important thing!) Which in some cases means a very strong capacitive load. So reactive energy. (The A_B effect is probably just theory, but not proven by anyone)

Now compare the M.E.G. device with the operation of the ferroresonance transformer. Examine both devices. (an old microwave transformer is suitable for this purpose)
The apparent (or reactive) energy will be at least 3-4 times the input energy at a frequency corresponding to an FR transformer. But only if the shunt is in place. (shunt corresponds to a permanent magnet)
When saturated the iron exits the air in flux. This is the M.E.G. device. But the same can be seen in the E.r. also in the videos at the LED indicator.Here I tried to get around the topic thoroughly. The text is not important, the pictures tell a story.
With the FR transformer, the flux cannot escape into the air so easily because it closes through the intervening shunt. So we will have two magnetic fields! And the two magnetic fields know well how they will affect each other.
I gained similar experience during the construction and testing of other permanent magnetic devices. (Árpád Bóday M.D.G generator CA002172240A does not accidentally use two transformers!, Bulgarian incomp generator)
A pm. space is very small, so the capacitor resonant circuit (reactive) amplifies.

In this arrangement, in this space, energy recharging takes place during the course already outlined above. This is already a very significant energy.

I can't say more yet.
Atti.

Fighter posted this 05 May 2022

Hello,

@YoElMiCrO, if you think another thread is necessary feel free to create it.

@Everyone, just choose a correct category for the new threads so we keep the things organized and we can find them easily in the future. Also if you think the existing categories doesn't match the subject of a new thread let us know (Cd_Sharp or me) and we'll create the category for you. Also Sub-Categories can be created (for example: Devices -> With Permanent Magnets), there is full flexibility available in how we can organize the threads. Just let us know what you need to keep the information well-structured

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Atti posted this 25 January 2023

Let's look at another test.
This is not the classic ZPM. But let's look at the similarities. We see similarities in other circuits.

You don't need to load now.
Here, the primary and secondary windings are selected separately. Therefore, the primary circuit and the secondary circuit must be interpreted separately.
In this arrangement, the primary winding is not connected in accordance with the inductance and excitation, but oppositely. So the induced magnetic field repel each other. (L1-L2 NS-SN can be found in the drawing) Thus, there is no induced voltage in a symmetrical secondary winding.
The inductance here is almost zero.
There is some inductance due to loose coupling only.
Although we know well that every wire has inductance, so it cannot be absolutely zero. Even if it has the same direction as the magnetic polarity. Especially if the frequency increases.
Here, the coils have mutually repelling magnetic fields.
The question is, are there any advantages to mutually repelling magnets placed on a common iron core? Any inductance? Any induced voltage?
- Differentiate the primary excitation flux (magnetic field)
-Distinguish between the flux excited by the secondary current (magnetic field)
- Differentiate between the flux enclosed in the common iron core (magnetic field)
Let's see the reaction due to the field excited by the secondary current with respect to the primary.
- Although I have already written it, I will note it again: this is the same phenomenon with Amcc20 or Amcc320 or CRT ferrite or flyback ferrite. (visible on the workbench)
-The recharge is less, but not negligible. It depends on the setting. It depends on the fill factor rather than the frequency.
-The switching mosfet is cold all the time.
- The phenomenon also exists when the earthing is disconnected. So there is no need for earthing in this case.
- This is also the case with batteries.

An impulse and a reaction. The size of the recharge is the question.

 

Atti.

realco posted this 25 January 2023

Madre de dios!!!!!

All my respects Atti!

 

Atti posted this 05 May 2022

Layout with permanent magnet. Reactive power is also strong here in the resonant circuit.

Here are some pictures of the simple design here. The measurement is for information only.

It's just an interesting thing.

So it can be seen that the permanent magnet can be omitted for the same purpose. In these arrangements, there is more reactive energy only on the secondary side. There is no feedback to the primary page here as we have seen it before. Or as in Yolelmicro's layout. So the two issues need to be addressed separately but considered at the same time.

Atti.

YoElMiCrO posted this 05 May 2022

Hello everyone.

@ Atti.

If you think so as not to open another thread, in this same one
we deal with the principle by which SBC is able to generate
negative current.

Thank you.

YoElMiCrO.

Atti posted this 17 May 2022

Parametric vibration. Or its effect on the source.

https://av.tib.eu/media/14288

This is seen at 5:20. I experienced something similar. The energy reflections in the videos are some details.Here is just a quick study of the orthogonal arrangement.

 

How the Reactive Power is Transduced into Real Power
We suggest a mechanism which accomplishes the transduction or at least models it. 

https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2011/07/10/extracting.pdf

Jagau posted this 15 December 2022

Very interesting effect that you found there Atti,
 Jagau

Jagau posted this 25 January 2023

Wonderful you are an artist Atti

beautyfull


Jagau

Close