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Gman posted this 2 weeks ago

 

Magnets. They must have been able to change the poles or as floyd was able maybe most of the time when only these raw videos something is in the background that helped build it.

Joel cell not hho.

Joe stopped his work as he was threatened I spoke with his inventor over thephone.

Joe is a simple man.

Regards,

 

 

G.G.

 

 

 

 

MerLynn posted this yesterday

Everyone loves to Quote Tesla... Think in terms of Energy frequency and Vibration. 

Yet

No one does

except MerLynn, Joe and the Chief Science Officer at Rusellian Philosophy.org

Another quote, along the lines that the day man studies the NON PHYSICAL, he will learn more in a decade than all of history.

Yet all they 'study' is what did Tesla mean by NON Physical. Simply outstanding critical thinking skills.

That Tesla Speak Translation will have to wait for another day. 

Anyone care to give their Translation of Tesla Speak as to what he meant in the meantime about the Non Physical or is it too 'esoteric' ?

In translating the word Translate, it means "what he actually meant." as it appears no one has got it yet. If Dollard did 'get it' He would be dead. My phrasiology keeps Joe and I alive and we have some doozie tales to relate with spooks.

WEF_Insect_Burger posted this yesterday

Quoting:MerLynn

https://rumble.com/v4odo38-joe-may-2010-magnetic.html

https://rumble.com/vhrm63-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh.-2nd-came.html

https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html

https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html

https://rumble.com/v5wjc52-seeing-the-light.html

These videos are amazing and i doubt anyone can replicate these effects.

 

Joe has very good electronics/power knowledge you cannot simply read in a book or get in a video, he found things by doing things nobody has done in recent times.

He used off the shelf basic things donated and from scrap yards, things everyone else is overlooking.

 

WEF_Insect_Burger posted this yesterday

 A field is setup in the aether at the physical location where the system is running, the old timers knew this, if the devices are moved they simply dont work anymore.

 

Some systems like from Gerard morin, are the same - they take some time to setup strong fields in the aether around them,  this concept is beyond the men still playing with AMP meters and multi meters.

 

Mr Dave L has some interesting ideas how to feel and setup some fields, and thats where it ends.

 

Lecher Antenna is more useful than what he is proposing with calipers.

 

Quoting:MerLynn

Everyone loves to Quote Tesla... Think in terms of Energy frequency and Vibration. 

Yet

No one does

except MerLynn, Joe and the Chief Science Officer at Rusellian Philosophy.org

Another quote, along the lines that the day man studies the NON PHYSICAL, he will learn more in a decade than all of history.

Yet all they 'study' is what did Tesla mean by NON Physical. Simply outstanding critical thinking skills.

That Tesla Speak Translation will have to wait for another day. 

Anyone care to give their Translation of Tesla Speak as to what he meant in the meantime about the Non Physical or is it too 'esoteric' ?

In translating the word Translate, it means "what he actually meant." as it appears no one has got it yet. If Dollard did 'get it' He would be dead. My phrasiology keeps Joe and I alive and we have some doozie tales to relate with spooks.

 

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Gman posted this yesterday

Replying To: Vasile

Hey VAsile,

 

https://www.youtube.com/@ingventor that is the guy that recorded Joe that I spoke with on the phone while taking a bath

Joe is a simple man.

He is just. The biggest we can be is small. To be simple is the highest.

Joe found this while attempting the Myers water cell car.

Joe is a child curious. Never lose this.

The proton cell (Joe cell) was attempted/recreated in the city I resided for over a decade.

The gentleman that attempted to bring it to light dissapeared.

It did not consume water and was not directly plumbed to the combustion engine although often needed to be started with a small amount of fuel.

My brother wanted me to recreate it. I built the cell and the water conditioning process you need to strip the water of it's surficants and to make it take on another phase there has been a fourth phase found now.

The blue caps were to hold inside the cylinders while they turned in the drill press.

There was also a tank with plates to strip the water of it's memory this is all I will say about this.

I have studied water for a few years now. We are the small or micro of the macro or the little of the world. All is around us and within.

I sent them to him I wished nothing to do with it as it works. I had family at the time. Things have changed.

Also Joe used amps(Welder) as opposed to a radiant charge.

There is a gentleman named Ritalie https://www.youtube.com/@Ritalie that attempted to show the masses with a boost for combustion simple device that is proven. This shall only improve efficiency though and not run the car alone as Joes did.

Remember that this cell is not a browns gas or deuteurium cell or hydrogen cell(sure he shows the pop although if you do not know stage 3 or more then you do not know the joe cell). Also if you do not prepare the water it will not go through the stages of conditioning. Also there is a field so be aware of this Joe warns about this in one of his videos thank you to the people that place his videos there is a couple i had not seen even though they were small there is always something to spot with these raw vidoes.

Frequency is how to say the symbols or shapes that are oscillating in the subatomic or unseen and they make up the seen. Never touching yet holding all together. 

So if the cell solid state or other has been conditioned then it shall remain in that state if it has obtained the nano aggregates.

You can get a magnet use a washer or spacer and then both poles shall attract and you shall have a super pole. not sure if you people know this. Joe shows this in one of the video's you have not placed.

Changing the pathway of magnetism could be a way of defeating lorentz and obviously is a way of changing water at an atomic level. In one of the water wizards devices being opened up Yohan grander there is much copper some water and looking at the inside it looke primitive yet it lowers the surface tension of water (proven). Stainless steel is not meant to be able to emit a field yet it does while it it being charged. The more rings you have the amps shall half although I would suggest if you are to recreate or improve is to not use the welder and use a radiant bedini/charger.

I enjoy George lakhovsky and Viktor schauberger and many more.

There is word that Joe was making Ormus.

This is of serious interest to me David Hudson _ ORMUS Conference Enota 2011 [FULL VIDEO]_1_31238E4544CF775E7AA984459CF9350B Take and make the time bread of the gods.

The tree of life.

I have had to look for another car for the girl as the car I pleaded her to get rid of was as me old and will be nothing other than trouble, no a/c no power windows leaks oil like a second hand lawn mower.

So excuse the late responses and little done of the fan.

I have been pouring over the site though and shall build and replicate some of your works so thank you all!.

Regards.

 

Fighter posted this yesterday

Hello,

Quoting:MerLynn

Very little of what is presented on this site or any site on the internet about "Aether" is correct. I speak from both from practical experience and Theoretical discourses from higher sources. I recommend this site only to get some historical perspectives on the Aether before I present the Universal Physics of the Aetheric Energy Grid. http://mountainman.com.au/aetherqr.htm

 

Dave L, is stuck on stupid.

You claim you have higher knowledge but still don't understand the simple fact that when you come on a site and insult everyone and their work all you will get is hostility. Didn't your "higher sources" told you that ?

Our site is not made to be a platform for people attacking the work of other researchers:

 Eric is also ‘completely wrong’.

So far everyone knows who  Eric Dollard is but nobody knows who you are. Ask yourself why. Until now what I see is a lot of words and attacks to other people's work.

Ironically I can answer with a quote from another new member on our site:

Quoting:WEF_Insect_Burger

I am tired of these "experts" claiming to know exactly how it works...

A friendly advice: on our site be polite, calling everyone "stupid" and "wrong" or attacking other people's work doesn't prove you're right and your run here would be very short.

Jagau said it better than me:

We're all here in these different forums trying to find something that could lead us to this overunity that everyone is looking for. We must respect other people's ideas, just as I respect yours.

Do you know how we do it here ? We create a thread, present our experiments and DEMONSTRATE what we're talking about. Is that simple and effective. A demo experiment have more value than one billion words and it's the only way to prove a concept/theory is correct. 

I have a Joe ConeCell build at present and it should be completed in the new year. This I will share as Mooker didn’t want to know about the Batteries and their anomalies when used to Charge Up a ConeCell or any JoeCell.

Feel free to create a thread and present your experiment. Just like all of us do here. Here we apply that saying: "put your money where your mouth is".

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Jagau posted this 19 hours ago

Hello Merlynn
Interesting topic.

If we want to start on a solid foundation and understand each other well, I have a question for you.

I gave you my version of electricity, which is Steinmetz's, and I'd like to know yours.

Could you explain how electricity works?

Let's use the same example as Steinmetz,  page 10 of his book,  Electric discharge impulse, with the generator so as not to be too ambiguous answer.

This, in my opinion, is the method that clearly explains how electricity works.

What is yours?

 

In more explicit terms, this guy sums up my thoughts.

Partha Mishra electronics engineer wrote:

It’s a misconception in modern electrical science that electricity is flow of electrons. This hallucination is from physicists from 20th century who contributed nothing to electrical science. All electrical pioneers from Faraday, Maxwell, Tesla, Steinmetz, Thomson agreed that electricity is due to fields in aether.

As long as we will cling to the electron theory, we can’t get the correct picture of electricity.

Electric current is the flow of fields, NOT charges or electrons. Current don’t exist inside the conductor, as modern electron theory claims. Current exists in the space surrounding the conductor.

 

Jagau

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Jagau posted this 17 hours ago

Hello Merlynn

about your request:

Anyone care to give their Translation of Tesla Speak as to what he meant in the meantime about the Non Physical or is it too 'esoteric' ? 

https://heliosliterature.com/2015/05/

An interview about non-physics, of great literary beauty,

and one can understand the sensitivity of Mr. Nicolas Tesla.

 Five races will address prayers to him in the temple of the future, because he taught them a great secret: the elements of Empedocles can be watered with the life forces of the ethers.

Jagau

 

 

 

MerLynn posted this 15 hours ago

Jagau

I gave you my version of electricity, which is Steinmetz's, and I'd like to know yours.

Could you explain how electricity works?

Let's use the same example as Steinmetz,  page 10 of his book,  Electric discharge impulse, with the generator so as not to be too ambiguous answer.

 

 

With all due respect.

I see no version of ‘electricity’ description.

All I see of Steinmetz is what he thinks is going on ‘around’ a conducting wire.

I don’t see ‘how it works’ by creating a “magnetic flux” as he now wants to change its name, explain what electricity is. All he is describing is the Field Effect as measured by IRON FILINGS and NOTHING else.

 

In science terms, what is the Mechanism that causes this Field Effect around a wire?

 

What is in the wires using “energy, Frequency and Vibration” terminology. Not some flux field or dielectric flux. These terms are meaningless in describing ‘electricity’ or that which is in the wires.

 

Steinmetz starts off with a ‘generator’ and then goes on to state what he THINKS is happening around the wires.

 

We cannot know what is happening around the wire when we KNOW NOT what is coming from the generator. We have NO Definition of what’s IN THE WIRES, that constitutes what ‘electricity’ is that is coming from the generator. You need to know this if you want More of it.

 

You cant explain with any certainty whats around the wires or what Generates the Magnetic Field without knowing whats coming from the Generator.

 

The same goes for a battery… any battery. What is ‘available’ at the terminal posts of a Battery?

 

Most electronic equipment uses ‘about’ 12volts. It uses DIRECT CURRENT that it gets either from a battery or a generator. Explaining how electricity works is NOT explaining what electricity is. Which is a MUST TO KNOW first.

 

As an inventor, can you not see that to ‘start’ with the Phenomena called Magnetic Field Generation by looking at just the wire is not scientifically explaining electricity?

 

We need to go back to the SOURCE. Calling it an “electric discharge impulse” is not a description of the electricity. Its actually pure gobbly gook and that’s being nice.

 

Until we get past what’s in the wires coming from either a battery or a ‘coil’ that wraps an iron core that a Magic Magnet passes 60 times a second, we just do not have a sound foundation or Basis to build upon to describe what the Iron fillings MEAN.

 

Tesla referred to the Iron Filings Field as a Rotating Magnetic Field. He also considered it his Greatest Discovery because it is VITAL for any object to Exist. But NO one has given this much thought or if they have, they did a Dollard on it and couldn’t get past just spinning a magnet. Outstanding revelations of Tesla Speak.

 

The incompleteness of any definition of electricity must be addressed before we can progress to the next level of understanding our electric universe and Tesla’s Greatest Discovery.

 

What Joe, Russell and I have defined electricity as, can be found here…. http://joecellwaterscience.com/electricity_7.html

And here. http://joecellwaterscience.com/science_2.html

 

In a nutshell.

Electricity or what we call Direct Current, is a Wire that is being induced to VIBRATE. The Atomic Structure is Vibrating with the Frequency of vibrations coming from the Source. (battery/generator) This Vibrating wire has what Tesla called “Pressure”. Such pressure can be North Pole Implosive or South Pole Expansive. No one uses Tesla Speak of ‘pressure’ to describe ‘electricity’.

 

The definition of any ‘battery’ is… Two dissimilar Magnetic Fields, (elements like Nickle and Cadmium) In close proximity, in a shared Medium, creates electrolysis or electricity. Their Atomic Structures are reacting to each other. The ONLY thing we know about Atomic Structures is they each have UNIQUE VIBRATIONAL Signatures (as determined by a mass spectrometer readout). The rest is nothing but a Periodic Table of Ascending WEIGHTS at Sea Level.

 

Thinking in terms of Frequency and Vibration, All we have to 2 elemental unique vibrations Interacting.

 

So the Atomic structure has ‘natural’ vibrations unique to each ‘thing’. The atomic structure has INDUCED Vibrational Increase, when Magnetic FORCE Lines pass THROUGH the iron core inside a coil, the Core’s Structure is EXCITED and the copper coiled wires are also excited and this Vibrational Excitement is transmitted or conducted to all conductors attached to the ‘circuit’…

 

Jagau, can you cut and paste what electricity is, not how we use iron filing to see it in wires as to what is in the wires as to what we see? I cannot except what you have presented as a definition of electricity when it clearly states ‘how it works’ as a definition of what it is. Two entirely different concepts.

 

We need to know all these things when hooking up a WaterCell to a battery to create a Magnetic Field rather than hooking up ‘just a coil’ to create a Magnetic Field.

 

Electric current is the flow of fields, NOT charges or electrons. Current don’t exist inside the conductor, as modern electron theory claims. Current exists in the space surrounding the conductor.

There is no FLOW. But there is a 2 way effect or an Opposite and Equal action. If there is a ‘flow’ as he claims, What is inducing this Flow of Fields?

There are no electrons to transmit wirelessly between coils in a transformer.

This short paragraph does not describe CURRENT. Yet whatever it is, IS IN THE WIRES. There must be something in the wires, but this guy is sure its not a “current” without describing what a ‘current’ is and then claiming its invisible and Non Physical and its around the wires.

Back to dilemma #1. What is Current or what is electricity that induces this FIELD EFFECT? The Field effect IS NOT ‘electricity’. Something induces this Field Effect.

 

Now without stating what Current is, he’s sure it exists ONLY in SPACE around the wires. What is in this ‘space’ around wires? There is ONLY THE WINDS or the 3rd Elemental State of Matter, or the 3rd Phase of Magnetic Matter or the 3rd State of WATER. (jumping way ahead here, a JoeCell is in Alchemical terms, applying Fire the 4th Elemental State of Water/Matter to the 2nd Elemental state of matter or liquids (water) which is a Battery Effect when 2 differing Elemental States interact we have Pressure Capabilities. The JoeCell is a Cold fusion battery amongst other colorful descriptions. Pons and Fleishman would describe it as Magic Magnetic Water much to Dave L’s disgust)

 

The wire has been INDUCTED or ‘given’ New Atomic Vibrations either by electrolysis (electrical Vibratory reactions) or by Force Lines passing through their Atomic Structures. This HIGHER level of Vibrations induced into the wire, now ‘reacts’ with the Winds surrounding the wires. The Winds become POLARIZED and we call this a Magnetic Field.

 

Reading the above articles at joecellwaterscience will clarify in more detail the above condensed version of what actually is Fire or as you see it… ‘electricity’.

 

Jagau, I anxiously await your definition of electricity as to what is at the Terminal Posts of any battery or what is happening between the magnet and the coils in the generator. Lets start at the beginning please. We aren’t up to Field Creation yet.

Jagau posted this 13 hours ago

Hi

Okay,
We need to differentiate between what happens in a conductor and how it's produced, whether by generators or batteries.

I could give you my explanation of how electricity is produced in another post.

After reading all your complaints about Steinmetz, you started to give me a partial answer with this:

In a nutshell.
Electricity, or what we call Direct Current, is a wire being induced to vibrate. The atomic structure vibrates with the frequency of vibrations coming from the source (battery/generator). This vibrating wire has what Tesla called "pressure." Such pressure can be implosive at the North Pole or expansive at the South Pole. No one uses Tesla's term "pressure" to describe "electricity."

So I'm asking you the same question: what is electricity? I'm not asking you how it's produced. For my part, I still agree with Steinmetz's explanation of what happens in an electrical conductor and how is produce current after it's produced by a generator; he explained it clearly and precisely. Furthermore, you use the term "Direct Current" but you can't define it in your summary, what is DIRECT CURRENT for you?. Regarding the wire being induced to vibrate, please explain what induction you're talking about.

You're giving me an answer with a question; it's not an answer. The pressure Tesla was talking about is called voltage, expressed in volts, and the magnetic field isn't called "wind" as you say, but a magnetic field, which can be quantified by the term magnetic flux, phi.

So give me a clear explanation of how electricity flows through a conductor, not how it's produced.

Jagau

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Gman posted this 12 hours ago

Replying To: Fighter

You are correct,

Toward's those that oppose although know also that Merlyn is as us all they have ego.

They have also shared video's and their views, better to have this in the open than built up this way we can all unbox and take our will.

Sometimes we need the devils advocate.  Merlyln is obviously very invested in the Joe cell from the US side of things and should not be dismissed although definently corrected or realigned. I have seen Joel Legace attacked on other sites only to stop visiting them ect I will not share on their sites. I have seen other's greed stop advancements.

It is good to oppose although Eric Dollard is incredibly complex and his knowledge of the workings is impressive to state the least. Sure maybe he should not have delved into certain subtances although everyone I have met makes error's.

I can also feel frustration in Merlyn's word's as I have been and will again.

As fighter said put your word where the theory needs to be tested. Action cures fear.

Please share your finding's Meryln as you and I both still have lot's to learn.

It is good you are passionate brother @ Merlyn.

I used to be a shot firer and was in rescue so I know most of the gases and all their interactions.

I have had a full life, I have stories that will make you question the very reality you live in.

So I will ooom and be as a mouse in the house.

Silence is not golden or the master's would not have spoken.

Remember this you may not have flow without pressure and you cannot have pressure without flow.

We need all if we are to balance. As the one that lacks one thing lacks everything.

Let us become = as they say.

When we agree the mountain shall move away.

I am truly glad that Fighter and Jagau and other's are elect as they clearly have a high level of empathy.

Know this, intelligence is below wisdom and wisdom is beneath care. The child may easily surpass the master, even though they may not be able to speak or spell or use big word's.

Without opposition there is no dance.

 

Regards,

G.G.

 

 

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