Beyond Unity - Public answer to Chris from aboveunity.com

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Fighter posted this 30 April 2022

I just saw a post made by Chris about two weeks ago:

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So, Chris, the answer is NO.

The reason it looks "familiar" is simple: both sites are using the same open-source platform named MVC Forum:

https://github.com/YodasMyDad/mvcforum/wiki

All the members of our team used to be members of AboveUnity (before you started to abuse, invent lies about them and act like a mentally ill person) and they are very familiar with the platform. That's the reason of our platform choice.

And if you would know what you're talking about you would know that if we would want to copy your site then this site would have been up and running in 4-5 days, we wouldn't need a month to develop it.

And you don't know it because you have no access here but BeyondUnity already have features and enhancements your site doesn't have. You were not even able to fix that Follow feature for topic notifications which is something very basic. Other than that check the layout, interactivity and the smoothness of this site and compare with yours. We had the latest version of TinyMCE from the beginning, weeks before you started upgrading the version from your site.

BeyondUnity was developed from ground up, that's why we have over 70 code commits made during the development:

So now get your pills, they may help with your issues.

And about all the lies and bullshit you were spreading about us, here it is something which you deleted on your site but we still have it:

Can you read this ?

I attached the image of the post so everyone can see it clearly.

So we started saving data (as you asked everyone to do) then you started yelling why we were saving the data. It does show exactly how bad your mental issues are.

And now fuck off, you're trash, go back to your site and find medical help.

You should ask yourself why almost all the members of the team left your site and the research and experiments there are now close to 0.

And something else: if you would have the solution, many members from your site would have working self-running devices by now ! The truth is no one has a working device there ! Not even you ! And we both know this !

You're in the past for us so stop talking trash about us. Everyone can see the proofs above and compare with all the lies you spread about us on your site.

If I would want your site down it would be down permanently. But your poor site goes offline on itself almost every day for more than a year now, was it also because of our "attacks" ? We even donated money to you when you were in trouble just to help in keeping your site online. Stop blaming others for your site issues.

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Fighter posted this 09 August 2023

iirc = "if I remember correctly". Seems you don't remember correctly.

Look above at my previous comment, Jagau agrees, so I wouldn't call that "OU confirmed".

Not even Chris have a demo device using his so-called "partnered output coils" else there would be replications of it all over the place as we have replications of ZPM. The reality is in 7 years since that old site is online nobody successfully built any working device using the so-called POC.

So, again, what's POC ?

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Jagau posted this 09 August 2023 - Last Edited 09 August 2023

I do not have OU system with two coils in opposite phase at the output.
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Fighter posted this 09 August 2023

Quoting:Jagau

I do not have OU system with two coils in opposite phase at the output.
Jagau

So Shelfordella, I consider your post a disinformation attempt. Be carefully, you're walking on very thin ice...

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Atti posted this 09 August 2023

It's a bit strange. These statements come from the same person.

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Fighter posted this 09 August 2023

Quoting:Shelfordella

Now you understand how Chris felt when he 'disgraced' members for what he considered disinfo. I even got an ip ban lol

No, I don't. Check again in this thread everything what Chris did.

I'm not like him, he have serious mental issues. No mentally sane person could do all those things and act like that.

The only "disgraced" one is he as long as we all left him and he remained alone there.

If you still believe his lies, disinformation and lies then maybe you should get back your membership on his old site.

He'll teach you how to use his so-called POC coils to build a working overunity device so after 7 years of nothingness there will finally be at least a single demo device using his useless coils. 😉

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Inception posted this 09 August 2023

For someone that has an IP ban ... still has access to copy Jagua's posts?

Were you reinstated at AU?

There is a vast difference between activities here and there.

Those activities are now here because the core experimenter group and active observers have either been banned for lack of understanding as to why they tried to save the community from a serious internet disconnect, or had left AU in disgust, or tired of the endless graphical repeats and elitist claims.

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baerndorfer posted this 09 August 2023

the thing is....

i started with the experiments on POC a long time ago. found a lot of useful information on the webpage from chris.

between 2020 and 2021 i created a transformer and a pulsing-circuit which drives LED's (150W street lights). i did my own measurements and found overunity.

but our own measurements means nothing, so i did a professional measuremt at a company (i cannot tell you the name of company). the whole prototype was measured which took 6 hours to complete. at the end i got a plot where we could see, that the poc-type transformer delivers 18% more light, compared to the best led-driver on the market. 😎

if you are interested in these plots i will share them in TierII.

so from my point of view i have to tell you that it works.

regards

B

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Fighter posted this 09 August 2023

Replying To: Shelfordella

I think you misunderstood the meaning of my question, it was a rhetorical question. 😉

What I meant is the so-called POC are not a real thing.

Just a quote from one of my posts here. That's also a reply to one of your posts because you keep taking side of that moron, I wonder why. For me it's a proof you didn't really read what we shown in this public reply thread - proof of his lies, his permanent disinformation and his miserable behavior (no mentally sane person would ever do what he did).

His goal from the beginning was disinformation and wasting researchers' time and resources with "his" partnered output coils - a road which is going to nowhere.

He just took half of one of Don Smith's devices and pretended it's his discovery. The fact that he disinformed from the beginning is proved by the fact that he "forgot" a key part there: the ground connection ("the source of electrons" how Don Smith calls it). Does it look familiar to you ?

Here it is, this is the explanation why after 5 years nobody there succeeded to build a functional device using "his" partnered output coils. Because it's a road going to nowhere.

About his pretended "sharing the knowledge", this is just one example: you may ask yourself why after he successfully replicated my ZPM in December 2021 he kept the replication secret without sharing it with the members of his site. I always asked that any replication of my ZPM must be in public domain.

There was a reason why Don Smith used other components around those coils in his device and there was a reason why he connected those coils to the ground ("the source of electrons" how he called the ground connection).

When you take those coils from Don Smith's device, you cut the ground connection (very important !) and you present it as your own discovery (even giving a name to those coils) and pretend those coils are the solution it's clear that all what you do is disinformation. Obviously those coils alone will not work without the rest of the device.

Since you believe so much in that disinformation, do you have a working device using those coils ? Of course you don't. Did you saw any demo device using those coils ? Of course you didn't, nobody did.

Ask yourself why.

All you got and all what everyone got was talking and talking for 7 years and nothing practical shown to prove the concept.

Totally different than what I did with ZPM. I have shown a practical/demo device in hundreds of posts experiments, data, results, videos, photos and schemas with the ZPM prototype and a ZPM replica.

Our members here came with their own replications of ZPM. And this happened relatively fast compared to those 7 years of just blabbing about the so-called POC.

Why ? Because as I said at the beginning of this post, the so-called POC are not a real thing.

You want to convince anyone about POC working ? Talking is not enough. Prove it with a practical demo device.

As I told to that crazy-boy: "Put your money where your mouth is ! Just like we did !".

Of course he didn't because he can't build a real device using those coils.

All he did was to continue blabbing and attacking us. Because that's all he can do.

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Fighter posted this 09 August 2023

Replying To: baerndorfer

Why was necessary to measure light and not real output in resistive light bulbs ?

In my opinion measuring light could be misleading.

Halogen lamp consume 28% less energy compared to an incandescent bulb for the same light output.

Also...

LED lamps use at least 75% less energy than incandescent lighting.

What I mean to say is even if there on output is light equivalent of 100W that's not the real power and if you put a 100W classical incandescent lamp or a 100W motor on output they will not work. That means those 100W measured in light are not real 100W, you couldn't use them for let's say home appliances. You could use them just for lighting.

So the question is: were those 18W real power ?

Of course it depends on the measurement protocol and methodology but based on all I know and I saw (most exactly nobody saw something practical using those coils) I doubt the so-called POC work.

if you are interested in these plots i will share them in TierII.

Sure, feel free to open a thread in Tier II, the details of the measurement protocol and methodology are important to see if those 18W were real or not.

In my opinion if the so-called POC would work in these 7 years he (or anyone else who tried) would've been able to show them working in a practical demo device. And there would be replications just like it happened with ZPM. But it didn't happened with those coils.

In my opinion the conclusion is obvious...

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Inception posted this 09 August 2023

Replying To: Shelfordella

Kudos to the interloper

I agree that there is valuable information on AU, and Chris has presented useful experiments, tools, theories, and good empirical arguments regarding OU measurement.

The residual of this fallout is open bitterness shared in both forums, once a harmony amongst gentle and very productive peers ... friends. We were a happy lot, yet now guarded, dispensing harsh countermeasures previously reserved for OU deniers.

In a perfect world. -

My hope for escaping bilateral regret: remove personal affronts in both forums; agree to present POC asymmetry on the AU forum and alternate configurations on the BU forum. Respectfully sharing references to each others works when applicable.

... for two witnesses are greater than one. Our mutual goal is to harvest from an abundant source of energy ... to release us from the bondage of evil oil overlords.

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