Aharonov-Bohm effect as zero-point energy concentrator

  • Last Post 02 March 2024
Fighter posted this 23 May 2022


This is the imported thread (from the old aboveunity site) about my experiment investigating the Aharonov-Bohm effect as zero-point energy concentrator:


For references I will keep the original posting date for every imported post.

Note: This thread is public, everyone can see it, even the visitors which are not members here.

For the posts made by former aboveunity members which are not members on our site I'll use a member placeholder named UndisclosedMember.



"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Shadow_ posted this 19 July 2022

atypical current measurement with a clamp meter

by Stephen Mark


time: 5:42

“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.“

Shadow_ posted this 25 September 2022

Hello all

atypical current measurement with a clamp meter (Once again, when measuring the current, the cable does not pass through the eyelet of the clamp meter)

by Kapandaze

I deleted my yesterday's post because I gave the wrong timestamp in the YT video✌




“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.“

Vidura posted this 25 September 2022

Hi All, Correctly observed, this leads us to an effect which is ignored or diligently avoided by textbook physics. There are some more related effects involving inductors and transformers, if you're interested let us make and/or quote some simple experiments to show the existence of scalar(magnetic) waves.


Fighter posted this 25 September 2022

Replying To: Gandalf

Hey, no worries ☺️

I "converted" my reply to you as a feature announcement in News category, that is a better place for that kind of information.



"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Itsu posted this 13 November 2022

As pointed out by Fighter in my "Fighters ZPM replication by Itsu" thread, i have read through this thread and watched the MEG video etc.

It seems to me that the MEG is not for the faint hearted and as Bearden himself states the problem is to synchronize all the different signals and to get them focussed as "one" to the output coil.
He mentiones that a team of 4 experts in severall electrotechnical disciplines are needed to accomplish this, and it seems to me that no-one up till now was able to assemble such a team to make it work.

Anyway, its an interesting read and Fighters has put already a lot of work and resources into this so it would be a waste to not further put this into the spotlights.

Something that popped into my mind was to use an electromagnet instead of a permanent magnet to see when the cores saturates (spills out), then use a gaussmeter (like WT10A) to measure the field strength and then match it with a permanent magnet.

Thanks, Itsu

Fighter posted this 14 November 2022

Thank you Itsu,

Yes, I intend to continue this investigation when possible. The Hitachi F3CC0125 nano-crystalline core is now almost double in price. I bought it with 325 $, I invested already a lot in this experiment and I must take advantage of this investment in order to find an potentially game-changing effect which could be employed in almost all the devices we're experimenting with here.

For later reference, more like a note for myself, I searched for WT10 and found one which seems to cost about 120 Euros:




"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Itsu posted this 16 November 2022


Fighter, thanks for info.

concerning the MEG, this is taken from Beardens PDF (attached) and shows the setup of his MEG:

So we have 2 input coils and 2 collector coils and Bearden has mentioned that as much collector coils can be used as possible, but that the problem is to synchronize these different collector coils signals to get one coherent output signal.

A replication by JL Naudin shows this drawing:

and this drive circuit:

Nothing however is to be found on how to synchronize the both collector coils signal which seem crusial in this setup.


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Fighter posted this 30 January 2023

As a note for later on this experiment, I'm adding Munny's idea for a method to verify the electric field around the core:



Talking about the behavior of the field around the coil, check the video at 18:23, there are physical effects around the coil, that metal piece is moving. 

I don't know if the metal piece contains iron but the input current is insignificant in that coil so how come its magnetic field around the coil is strong enough to move that metal piece ? Seems very unlikely that the cause of the movement is the magnetic field. Then what's the cause ? The medium interacting with the coil is the cause of that movement ? Very interesting.

Good eye Fighter!

If not magnetic, the only other real choice is the electric field and based on it's relatively slow movement I would have to guess a slight alteration in the standing waves or in this case the antinode nearest that metal tube is not completely stable in its position, maybe slowly drifting back-n-forth a centimeter or two.  I would actually expect this behavior in a device that is not 100% production quality and assembly.  Would be interesting to see what happens if there were several stryfoam balls suspended from threads hanging over that coil.  Bet they would be dancing everwhere.


"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Atti posted this 07 February 2023

Not sure if this post fits here. But maybe it's more appropriate here.
There are several factors in this study. So not a specific focus. This is not a measurement, just some phenomena. I will supplement it with some thought starters.

The basic phenomenon:
-An iron core excited by alternating voltage with a series capacitor. Series resonance.(L3-C1)
The inductance of L"1-L"2 is connected opposite each other. There is no inductance, so there is no induced voltage.
-This is connected in parallel with a loosely coupled parallel inductance. (L5-C2)
The excited voltage is initially less because the coupling is loose.
Thus, the resonance point of the two sides is also different.
- If we connect an inductance in series, all parameters change with the entire arrangement. ( Ft coil )
(Inductance is very important here.)
This can be seen on the 24v10w load connected to L"1-L"2. This is traditionally the M.E.G. device control coil. So the primary coil.
  (in the traditional case, think of the inductances L3-4-5-6 as the secondary coil)
  - If the parameters are correct, the parallel LED placed between the inductances L"1-L"2 lights up first. Then, in case of overexcitation, a strong voltage is induced on it. (resonance point)
What happens to the magnetic field of a permanent magnet here? What is happening in space?
- But if there is no L"1-L"2 inductances during the control pause
  voltage can then function as a secondary coil.
That is, it recharges the power supply.

-Necessary conditions:
-different inductance
Let's think about the experience at ZPM or other implementations. (Tesla coil, Kapanadze generator...)
- strive for a higher voltage (amcc320 test video at 3:40)
- think about energy reflection (videos Er1-4)
-adequate capacity



Fighter posted this 17 January 2024

We all know this video where Tom Bearden explains how MEG is employing the Aharonov-Bohm effect for becoming overunity and how "The biggest action in the MEG is a electric field transformer not a magnetic field transformer":


Recently I found a small book (about 70 pages) where Tom Bearden is explaining with more details this concept and how it's applied in MEG. It helps in clarifying many things which are mentioned only briefly in the video.

I'm attaching the book to this post.

At the end of the book are also many diagrams but two of them caught my attention: the COP for different input voltages.

One is the COP measurements made with the MEG prototype:

And another one is the estimated COP for another MEG which was under construction, seems that when using high voltages MEG can reach over 40 COP:

Extremely interesting, I must find time to resume this experiment and take advantage of the Hitachi F3CC0125 nano-crystaline core I have which in the meantime dramatically increased it's price (from 325 Euros to 536 Euros).



"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla

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