Atti's successful ZPM replication

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Atti posted this 25 November 2022

Hi everyone.

I just wanted to look at a few things in this simple compilation. As you can see, it's almost the same drawing as the one that Fighter gave us. I played with it a bit.
The core is a tiny Amcc20. Frequency between 90-110Khz. Filling factor 50%. Supply voltage between 20-30 volts. The power supply L-C filter works well. Roll ratio 1:2

Changes caused by parasitic capacitances are inevitable at such a high frequency. You can see them in the two videos. Sometimes the power is increased and sometimes the current is reduced.
Grounding can help in some cases. But the influencing factor must be taken into account during the measurements. It only has an effect above a certain frequency.
This is just for information, but as you can see, there are cases when the current drawn from the power supply is close to zero. There are times when grounding is necessary.

In this oscilloscope examination, I was curious as to where and how the two coils resonate. Or how I see it. Or is it visible at all.

When the current drawn from the power supply is the lowest, the CH2 (blue) channel is at a higher voltage. But this is the coil with less turns. Thus, it should be smaller by default (or at a lower frequency). So when this coil is at a higher voltage, it works on the other coil and charges back to the power supply. (here I deliberately did not say L1 or L2 because only the principle is the point, but this still awaits further investigation)
In some cases, the hump characteristic of parametric excitation can also be observed in the measured signal. Vidura alluded to this in one of his comments.
I have not done the loading according to Fighter or YoElMiCrO. The change is not so spectacular for the load.

It would definitely be necessary to use an iron core with a larger volume and a coil with a larger surface area.
This experiment was just for information on my part. To be continued later.

@Itsu.

As you can see, the current can be reduced to almost zero. Probably also with higher loads. The generator effect can prevail. But there are a lot of questions for me right now.

Atti.

 

 

Jagau posted this 09 December 2022

 Hi Atii this is the right waveform


If you want a little advice, place a diode in the right direction in series with your lamp which is your load and an unpolarized capacitor in parallel with the lamp and it will light up very strongly.

Jagau

Atti posted this 09 December 2022

Jagau. Ok.I totally agree. Thank you.

 

Atti.

Jagau posted this 10 December 2022

Hi Atti
if you need a little schematic i can help you
Jagau

Atti posted this 10 December 2022

Hi Jagau.

I am interested in any information and thank you.

Atti

Atti posted this 10 December 2022

I am interested in the opinion of the Members. In your opinion, which seed is worth buying?

 

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/metglas-2605sa1.html

Itsu posted this 10 December 2022

Atti,

i would buy it from mouser.com, they have the original Hitachi metglas cores, but are more expensive 😒

The AMCC 200 is out of stock suddenly (more people are replicating the ZPM 😀 ?), so i guess the AMCC 320 would be the way to go.

Itsu

 

Fighter posted this 10 December 2022

Quoting:Atti

I am interested in the opinion of the Members. In your opinion, which seed is worth buying?

 

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/metglas-2605sa1.html

Hi Atti,

I see there prices so low that it makes me suspicious about how good they are, if they are built according to expectations.

I also would recommend Hitachi cores from mouser.com, their quality is guaranteed, Hitachi is not playing around with the quality of its products and their specifications. But they are more expensive, it's true.

I don't know what to say, my second core is also not Hitachi and it worked with my ZPM replica but I don't know if that was just luck that it was okay. I bought it from dacpol.eu but I see now they are not displaying the prices on their site.

You have two options:

  • to try with one AMCC-200 from China and hopefully it will be okay and work as expected;
  • wait and save more money and get one Hitachi core from mouser.com.

I don't know which one is better for you, it's not a easy decision but it should be your decision on which way to go with this.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Atti posted this 10 December 2022

Hi everyone.
Ok. Thanks for the reviews. In any case, the importance of material quality is still a question for me. Does the effect really only work with Amcc? Because there was some effect with the CRT shifter ferrite (or I don't know what the exact material quality is) (Cap3 video can be seen at 0:20). I'll try to find out anyway. But it's a lot of work.

Atti.

Fighter posted this 11 December 2022

Quoting:Atti

the importance of material quality is still a question for me. Does the effect really only work with Amcc? Because there was some effect with the CRT shifter ferrite (or I don't know what the exact material quality is) (Cap3 video can be seen at 0:20). I'll try to find out anyway. But it's a lot of work.

I admit I never tried a ZPM made with ferrite core. That's because I used the already existing Metglas core and the coil supports from my previous MEG replication attempt. Of course it would be very desirable to use a much cheaper core made of ferrite if that would work. But I simply don't know if it could work or not.

My guess (please take it as a hypothesis) is there is something related to the magnetostriction parameter of the material. I think higher magnetostriction means better for our devices. But it's just a guess for now, I have no data to compare different materials.

As far as I know the CRT transformer's ferrite is not usual ferrite, it's made a bit different (talking about its composition). The problem with that is all that kind of cores are small, there is no bigger core using that kind of ferrite. All transformers of that kind have about the same size, unfortunately.

Would be very interesting how a much bigger core with that kind of ferrite would work but they're not produced at bigger dimensions.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
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