Atti's successful ZPM replication

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Atti posted this 25 November 2022

Hi everyone.

I just wanted to look at a few things in this simple compilation. As you can see, it's almost the same drawing as the one that Fighter gave us. I played with it a bit.
The core is a tiny Amcc20. Frequency between 90-110Khz. Filling factor 50%. Supply voltage between 20-30 volts. The power supply L-C filter works well. Roll ratio 1:2

Changes caused by parasitic capacitances are inevitable at such a high frequency. You can see them in the two videos. Sometimes the power is increased and sometimes the current is reduced.
Grounding can help in some cases. But the influencing factor must be taken into account during the measurements. It only has an effect above a certain frequency.
This is just for information, but as you can see, there are cases when the current drawn from the power supply is close to zero. There are times when grounding is necessary.

In this oscilloscope examination, I was curious as to where and how the two coils resonate. Or how I see it. Or is it visible at all.

When the current drawn from the power supply is the lowest, the CH2 (blue) channel is at a higher voltage. But this is the coil with less turns. Thus, it should be smaller by default (or at a lower frequency). So when this coil is at a higher voltage, it works on the other coil and charges back to the power supply. (here I deliberately did not say L1 or L2 because only the principle is the point, but this still awaits further investigation)
In some cases, the hump characteristic of parametric excitation can also be observed in the measured signal. Vidura alluded to this in one of his comments.
I have not done the loading according to Fighter or YoElMiCrO. The change is not so spectacular for the load.

It would definitely be necessary to use an iron core with a larger volume and a coil with a larger surface area.
This experiment was just for information on my part. To be continued later.

@Itsu.

As you can see, the current can be reduced to almost zero. Probably also with higher loads. The generator effect can prevail. But there are a lot of questions for me right now.

Atti.

 

 

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bigmotherwhale posted this 11 December 2022

My guess (please take it as a hypothesis) is there is something related to the magnetostriction parameter of the material. I think higher magnetostriction means better for our devices. But it's just a guess for now, I have no data to compare different materials.

Interesting you should mention that, After doing some experiments with ferrites i came to the conclusion that this is an magnetostrictive effect, im currently investigating magnetostrictive materials and their effect on the POC experiments.

https://www.aboveunity.com/thread/bigmotherwhale-s-non-inductive-coil-experiment/

I did a search for magnetostriction just before i joined about an hour ago and there wasnt a mention of it on the whole site, as you are admin i assume you can check search terms to see that, kind weird timming tbh. 

glad to see many people are experimenting here. 

 

Fighter posted this 11 December 2022

Quoting:bigmotherwhale

Interesting you should mention that, After doing some experiments with ferrites i came to the conclusion that this is an magnetostrictive effect, im currently investigating magnetostrictive materials and their effect on the POC experiments.

I did a search for magnetostriction just before i joined about an hour ago and there wasnt a mention of it on the whole site, as you are admin i assume you can check search terms to see that, kind weird timming tbh. 

glad to see many people are experimenting here. 

Welcome BMW,

I would say Metglas is one of these materials, that's why many of us are using it in our experiments. Of course it's more expensive but considering the fact that during the Cold War period it was a restricted military material and a core like this it costed tens of thousands of dollars, the fact that is accessible on the market now is a very good thing. As I mentioned, there is possible that some kind of ferrites (like the one from the CRT transformers) can enter in this category too but personally I have no data to confirm or not this hypotesis.

Well, there are two kind of searches on our site, there is a restricted area on our site made for our core team members (basically all the former team of researchers from aboveunity) where they share their experiments in a non-public mode with other mermbers of the team. The default search doesn't include results from that area. Also Google or other search engine can't find and display results from that area.

The area is not intended for hiding data but to ensure the security of our core team members, the moment they decide it's safe for them to go public with something then they move that thread in the public section.

Yes, the experiments you saw on the old aboveunity site are made by us (I mean our core team) and they're continued here. That's why we developed and got online our new "home". It looks familiar because our members here are former aboveunity members so we created a interface familiar to them. Another reason is both sites (this one and the old aboveunity) are using the same open-source platform (MVC Forum) so the basic functionality and interface are kind of similar. But we implemented a more interactive interface and performance enhancements and new features which you will not find in the old aboveunity site.

If you need assistance with our site or if you encounter a bug (our site is new) you let me or Cd_Sharp know and we'll take care of that.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
bigmotherwhale posted this 11 December 2022

Yes very synchronistic.

A core material with very low magnetostriction is sendust, it is essentailly zero according to wiki. 

I am planning some simple experiments vs a normal powedered iron core. 

There are other properties, that are shared with other core materials that are of interest too relating to barium ferrites. 

Ferrites exhibit very fast shock front propagation speed, which makes their use difficult, metglas is alot slower meaning its alot easier to work with over a shorter distance imo. 

Fighter posted this 11 December 2022

Yes, I think Vidura (I hope I remember correctly) shown at some point a video where a ferrite bar broke after a short but powerful magnetic pulse.

Barium ferrite cores with bigger dimensions are hard to find, as far as I know they're not manufactured anymore.

Another possible candidate would be NiZn ferrite cores, they are rare but they can still be found in some old CRT transformers. Some of those transformers, not all of them. About those you can ask Jagau, he have more experience in how to test them to find out if they are NiZn or not. He can give you more info when he have some time.

I realized later that you found a possible bug when you searched for magnetostriction and there were no results ? I just tested the search and it's returning results like the one with my reply to Atti and then the next posts with quotes containing the word.

So on my side the search seems to work fine. Could you please search again and see if it's a bug or not ? If the bug is present you can use the "Report a bug" in the Categories on the right side and create a bug report there.

We can discuss in that thread so we don't spam Atti's thread here with unrelated things.

Include more details about the search term(s) which returns wrong results so I can reproduce it, add it to my to-do list and fix it when I find some time.

About your planned experiments, feel free to create a thread in that category and share your experiments, I'm sure many members will find this subject about materials very interesting, it's an area not covered very well.

Thanks,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
bigmotherwhale posted this 12 December 2022

The search results start with your post yesterday. Nothing before that at all, i didnt get any results before about 3pm yesterday when i searched "magneto" then "magnetostriction" both gave me nothing. 

Barrium is no longer used because of its toxicity? 

You can find old spekers from the 70s that use this, if you test with a multimeter on megaohm and get open circuit then its likely this and it has very high resistance, its a good dielectric amongst other things! if you dont want it to be a magnet anymore then you can heat it to its curie temp and apply an ac magnetic field across it (like i belive sweet did in his so called magnet conditioning which i belive to be a half truth) 

I remember someone talking about NiZn in relation to this, i dont think that any of this is essential, if we know what we are engineering for then it should be easy to pick something that has the right properties, so far from what i know of we only get half explanations and we are told to look for something without knowing what. 

All of these materials have some kind of crystaline lattice, are they a transducer?

Sendust exhibits simultaneously zero magnetostriction and zero magnetocrystalline anisotropy

If you look for properties of the materials being used, it should give hints as to the true inner workings.

Atti posted this 22 December 2022

Fake Data in the Community is not only a Disgrace, its shameful!

The zpm was always a TOY and they, because they have ZERO, Nudda, Zilch, are desperately trying to make this TOY look like it has potential!

It does not and we will very soon see this, already many have!

If you want real Power, Horse Power, not mouse power, you need to research what I am doing!

You will no doubt see this if you choose to replicate the zpm, with all its many problems and its very poor future!

 

Let's look at this phenomenon from a different perspective to see if it is really useless. Is it really just a bag of cow shit?
  As you can see, a very good energy utilization device was made at that time. Of course, it represented a real value system. This arrangement and idea is not intended to extract excess energy. But notice the effect and the implementation.

- Let's examine the relationship between n1-n2 and n3 carefully!
- Let's look at the train numbers and connections!
Look at the drawing carefully!
-As well as the importance of C5-C6-C7.
- Let's look at the role of D3-4-5.
What if he wasn't there!? Note the following process and replace it according to ZPM:

"After the closing of transistor T6, the induced voltage of coil n2 is added to the supply voltage and goes to storage capacitors C5-C6-C7 connected in parallel. This is how the magnetic energy in the coil is also used. The energy loaded into the capacitors (in addition to the given capacitor and inductance value) depends on the interrupting current , so it is a constant value. The voltage appearing on the capacitors is 80V. The half-discharge of the power source (battery) is prevented by diodes D3-4-5."

https://zsiguli.hu/muszaki-irasok/gyujtasrendszerek/cpi-1280-elektronikus-gyujtas

 

 

Checked.

It can be seen that he is the master who imagines himself to be Jesus, the savior of the world
  he is on the wrong path.

Nevertheless, I wish him (also) spiritual reconciliation.

I suggest that in these times, instead of hating, he should turn to reconciliation and meditation.

 

Atti.

Fighter posted this 22 December 2022

Replying To: Atti

Just ignore him...

He is an idiot and he's furious because he was exposed with "his" so called "partnered output coils" stolen from one of Don Smith's devices which will never work without the rest of the device.

What he shared for so many years never helped anyone in building a functional device and it's just a road going nowhere.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
cd_sharp posted this 23 December 2022

Guys, in my opinion he has the technology and the know-how, and I'm still investigating POCs. I am amazed by the effects I have seen on the bench, which I will share when I will have the time. He did not share anything but dead ends and half truths, never a truly practical concept. You're right, my friend, POCs concept as he presented it is only the beginning. That explains why everyone that gave it a try succeeded in making only toys. Remember Loz, Wistiti, .. myself included. Chris was very sneaky. We trusted him 100%, but he did not ever trust any of us more than 10%. He was always saying a piece of the truth, followed by a lot of non-sense. If anyone thinks that Chris will help making a practical device, that anyone is wrong. He will twist your neurons, he will repeat the same quotes over and over and right when he feels you are getting close to his 'precious' secret, he will throw a new experiment on the table. His materials on basics (MrPreva Experiment, Reduced Impedance Effect and Some coils buck and some coils don't) are very useful, but you can gain real knowledge from them only after a lot of experiments and reflection. His sentences are ambiguous right when they should be clear and you end up spending much time on interpreting what he might have wanted to say. Chris is a man of riddles. He likes to interpret ambiguous words from holy writings and prophecies. He also likes to be interpreted. He wants people to read between the lines he is writing. In my opinion, this is no science and no way anyone can be taught how to build a practical device. I wish to avoid insulting him although he deserves it for all the lies he spread. That's why I'm stopping here. Stay atrong!

If you know how to build such a device and you're not sharing, you're a schmuck! - Graham Gunderson

Fighter posted this 23 December 2022

Here we disagree, in my opinion he has nothing. No technology and no know-how. That's why he is repeating like a parrot the same phrases over and over again because that's how far he advanced. That's why he is lying there are functional devices using just those coils when we know very well there are none, not even him has a functional machine. He is using those lies just for encouragement for all the researchers which failed building anything functional using just those coils.

I agree those coils have useful effects, that's why Don Smith used them in his devices, just like Kapandze, Akula, Melnichenko and many others. But they can't function on themselves without the rest of the devices.

He is stuck for so many years and he just hoped that the researchers of our team and their experiments will help him move further which of course didn't happened because he never said where he copied them from, those coils are not and were never his discovery as he claims.

That's why he is attacking ZPM, because he is unable to show a functional device powering up not tens of watts of light bulbs like ZPM does but at least a few watts with minimal input. If he would have any technology or know-how based on those coils he would proved it with at least a 5W device. And the excuse that he is afraid to share something like this doesn't hold water, I shared ZPM and "they" didn't killed me. Yes, there were some "strange" things happening but I'm still alive and still breathing. At least for now. So, sorry, he really got nothing to share, he just hoped what others shared on his site will help him move further with his "discovery".

That's why I don't care what he is saying or what he is "sharing". In my opinion those coils need the rest of the devices he stolen them from in order to function properly. Practically it's needed to return to the sources, the devices he stolen those coils from. And a good start for that would be Don Smith's device I presented many times here on our site as the source where those coils were stolen.

Stay strong !

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
cd_sharp posted this 23 December 2022

My friend, although we disagree about some things, we're still buddies and we still work together.

About Chris, let me quote Graham Gunderson: "If you know how to make such a device and you keep it to yourself, you're a shmuck!".

Sorry, Atti about the off-topic.

Stay strong!

If you know how to build such a device and you're not sharing, you're a schmuck! - Graham Gunderson

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