AlteredUnity's successful ZPM replication

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AlteredUnity posted this 16 January 2023

Hey everyone, im glad you started a new community, its a shame your device went from "should be first device to replicate after Non-inductive coil" to a toy, to deleted.

300Turn coil : measurements were made with both coils on center of core at 1khz; Coils were then put at far opposite ends of top and bottom of core.

20awg;  L = 425mH; DCR = 1.73 ohms

150Turn coil : 20awg; L = 110.7mH; DCR = 0.818 ohms

This is a fast trial run, have more to come with some ideas that may improve opperation. With this configureation I still pull 7 watts of power, so there isn't a whole lot of feedback. 

The center tap is connected to cable running to my cars body ground; The scope is connected across load, with its ground on the DRAIN of mosfet. This may be the wrong configuration and reason for not lowering input.

Any pointers are appreciated.

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AlteredUnity posted this 16 January 2023

Hey everyone, im glad you started a new community, its a shame your device went from "should be first device to replicate after Non-inductive coil" to a toy, to deleted.

300Turn coil : measurements were made with both coils on center of core at 1khz; Coils were then put at far opposite ends of top and bottom of core.

20awg;  L = 425mH; DCR = 1.73 ohms

150Turn coil : 20awg; L = 110.7mH; DCR = 0.818 ohms

This is a fast trial run, have more to come with some ideas that may improve opperation. With this configureation I still pull 7 watts of power, so there isn't a whole lot of feedback. 

The center tap is connected to cable running to my cars body ground; The scope is connected across load, with its ground on the DRAIN of mosfet. This may be the wrong configuration and reason for not lowering input.

Any pointers are appreciated.

beyond-unity zpm

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Jagau posted this 23 October 2023

Thank you for the feedback

I should receive mine soon, will let you know for testing result.

Have a nice day.

Jagau

AlteredUnity posted this 23 October 2023

Thank you Jagau for the explanation, I learn more every day. My differential probe is "Micsig DP10013 Differential High Voltage Probe". It's well worth it, same with the "Micsig Oscilloscope Probe CP2100A AC/DC Current Probe 800KHz", is very accurate(the .1ohm resistors I use aren't as accurate because of the changing values at different frequencies can be misleading, but may just need better resistors.

While measuring I use the precision measurement option to use the whole memory buffer, not just the screen.

Jagau posted this 23 October 2023

Well done Alter

This new toy will give us a lot of pleasure.

Yes the power analysis software package is very interesting, when I look at your last image everything corresponds very well with Cos Phi, the values are exact when we do the calculations manually to double-check.

The software calculates in real time the correct average values on which we can rely. As you may have noticed when Cos phi exceeds 90 degrees, nothing is consumed at the source and there is even, as in your case, a small negative 460.5 milliwatt who is returned to the source. Lots of pleasures in perspective.

I need to buy a new differential probe, which one do you use?

Are you happy with his performance?

Is this an active or standard differeintial probe?

You will respond when you have time.

Thank you for sharing

Jagau

AlteredUnity posted this 23 October 2023

Still haven't had a lot of time, just got ZPM laid back out. Ill make note of what I observed in the ten min of getting to tune it. Just making notes because it may play a big roll in the effects of the configuration. 

The output on the load isn't great, but thats not what im showing this for. While tuning I realized my powersupply voltage started to increase. It is set at 16v, and while hitting certain frequencies, it goes to 16.23V while the input current drops about 20ma. Maybe helpful. Freq = 333kz, duty cycle 23%. 

Also I got a new scope, having fun and learning it better. The picture shows a Power Analysis function available on the scope, keep in mind this function to used to measure AC input line, though here on the output it shows im using -463mW of Real Power to my load, im still learning why this is or what it means. 

This is clicking button on power supply to show its current set voltage while its running:

 

This is the voltage its displaying its putting out(ive seen this on some boost converters in the past when a cap wasn't discharged and output was shut off, it shown the capacitors charge until it depleted) :

And here is the scope shot with voltage across the load(measured with differential probe), and current through the load(measured with current probe):

 

Shadow_ posted this 06 August 2023

Thank you very much for confirming the theory ; that the length of the wires as well as their weight are important

Regards

Gandalf

“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.“

Shadow_ posted this 06 August 2023

“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.“

Fighter posted this 02 August 2023

Quoting:AlteredUnity

I was going to ask if the wires were hot when you touched them, but just read the thread when you posted about it, thats even more interesting.

I don't remember too many details about the experiment but it's a good thing I documented the results at that time. So the answer is yes:

Something I also noticed when suing 2 x 12V/35W light-bulbs on output, when using those connectors having crocodile-style terminals and small AWG (diameter), the connectors on output are becoming so hot until the plastic which isolates their wires is going to the point of starting to melt even if they don't have direct thermic contact with the halogen lights; in the same time the same type of connectors on input are cold, not  even warmer.

Here could be two possible explanations:

  • let's just suppose there is the same amperage on input and output, the output wires are being hot because of the very high frequency AC while the wires on input are cold because there is DC;
  • or the amperage on the output is much higher than the amperage on the input (as source's readings and the luminosity of the light-bulbs seems to indicate) meaning high COP.

Quoting:AlteredUnity

those I believe are fine stranded wires on those alligator clips, so may be combination of length and/or wire type.

I checked the electronics store where I bought them, they still have that kind of wires here.

Yes, they are 48 cm long (including the clips) stranded wires and what's more interesting is they support maximum 1A current. So what the experimental results were showing: input was under 1A (wires on input were cold) while output was over 1A (output wires became hot) which is obvious also from the luminosity of the 2 x 12V/35W halogen lamps on output.

That gives us also an idea about ZPM's overunity characteristics without using any measurement instruments.

Now looking back and having the new information you discovered about the wires I realize it was also a matter/percentage of luck: with longer/different wires I would have missed the input decreasing effect while I was trying different configurations during the development of ZPM...

Thanks,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
AlteredUnity posted this 02 August 2023

Luckily you still get the effects with longer wires, and those I believe are fine stranded wires on those alligator clips, so may be combination of length and/or wire type. Also the effects shown in the video are interesting on the output as well, just adding wires in parallel so less resistance gives better output and reduces the input. I was going to ask if the wires were hot when you touched them, but just read the thread when you posted about it, thats even more interesting.

Fighter posted this 02 August 2023

Hello,

Related to the wires used, I was searching in the ZPM thread to find out data about the wires I used initially before changing them to the actual ones.

I found something which is very related to your observation about wires here in this post:

 

At that time my conclusion was it's about the wires gauge. But maybe it's also related to the wires lenghts as well.

Because at that time I was doing so many experiments I completely forgot about the reason why I changed the wires.

The post and the video on my YouTube channel are now 4 years old and seems now we found a new signifiance of the data published there and shown in the video.

At that time I considered the length of the wires is irrelevant, I thought just the gauge is significant.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
Fighter posted this 28 July 2023

Replying To: AlteredUnity

No worries, this is not the old aboveunity site and not gonna become a religious-like community with "The ZPM Bible" or something like that... 🙂

Here all experiments are important because every experiment can come with a breakthrough which could be a big leap in our way to the common goal.

Our members can express doubts, express their opinions and have contradictory discussions. That's fine, we're in uncharted territory well beyond the frontiers of the "official" physyics and nothing is impossible.

I just wanted to share that I had my doubts too when I saw the ZPM prototype working and I saw what it does. And what I did to address these doubts.

Because I had on my experiments table a device contradicting all I knew from school about physics and energy.

Like every researcher of our team here I'm just trying to show to people what's really possible and to help them break that mental barrier implanted in their brain by the "official" physyics. 'Cause that's the only thing stopping them to ask questions, to do their own research and to start experimenting and go in this uncharted territory of the supressed technologies which could set us all free.

'Cause I know how difficult is to break that barrier, I was a firm believer in everything the "official" physics told me and taught me in school.

About the self-looping, it may be not be as simple as taking some energy from output and sending it to input. According to one of the very knowledgeable/experienced members of our team here the output energy is somehow different than the standard energy we use on input. And the difference between the nature of these energies have an undesired effect: the output energy instead of adding to the standard energy on input it annihilates/destroys it. So instead of having an increase of energy on input (by adding a part of the energy from output) we will have an decrease of energy on input. But that's just a possible issue which I'm sure we can find a workaround for it as there were many inventors showing self-running devices in the history.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
Nikola Tesla
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