Beyond Unity - YoElMiCrO's Ferro-Magnetic Resonance

YoElMiCrO posted this 09 February 2024

I transferred my thread on Ferro-Magnetic Resonance here to BeyondUnity.org

beyond-unity ferroresonance

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Fighter posted this 12 February 2024

Hello,

As I promised to Yoel the import of this thread is now complete, sorry for the delay...

It has 87 posts and for each it needed direct access to our database, image importing, links, text formatting and a lot of attention to details.

As this process cannot be automated, it can be done only manually and it's very time consuming.

But it's worth the effort, in time we gonna get all our data here to home where it belongs because it's the work and the property of the members of our team.

As Yoel's device shared in this thread is overunity it's now officially tagged with the "Beyond-Unity" tag and I will add it to the section "Our Beyond-Unity Devices" on the right-side of our site.

Also I got Yoel's permission to add our site's logo to the video showing his device running as the video is his property and he is a member of our team here in our site.

Yoel, if you find any (possible) errors I've made during the import please feel free to edit/correct them.

The thread is officially yours now.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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YoElMiCrO posted this 23 October 2020

Hello everyone.

This video is an update.
Don't look at the watering hole on my table,
I haven't had time to pick her up.
In this case I take the potential energy
to recycle for the next cycle and for load.
I use only the generator to control the Mosfet.
There is still a need to design a control circuit that
meet specific requirements that maintain the phenomenon.
When it's 100% autonomous, we can all prove it.
I'll keep you posted.

Thank you.

YoElMiCrO.

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Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Friends,

If I may for a clearer understanding these images. this is the theory from Yoelmicro, what he explained to me:

below we see a nearly quadratic hysteresis loop :

this means that the magnetic flux decreases very little from saturation to remanence. This is a requirement of the material to get the effect. in the following image we see the relative permeability for a given material, with it's negative slope between μmax and μsat.

We have to aim to maintain the working point of the inductor-transformer in the negative slope. the steeper the falling curve the greater the amplification factor. This causes that when the applied field decreases, the permeability increases, just the other way around than in the linear region. this make the hysteresis loop circulate the other way around, it's like a time reversal, and thus can pump energy from the aether.

generally a current regulated switching is required for stable operation.

Vidura

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Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Jagau, If you look at the second graph you can see that the relative permeability in the linear region increase from mu init to mu max. This region is used in conventional EE. Then from mu max. to mu sat. There's the negative slope. When the external field continue increasing, the permeability falls. Now at or near saturation we switch off the external field and the flux in the core start decreasing, while the permeability is now increasing, just the opposite way as in the linear region. Then we let it decrease, but only until reaching mu max. Then we energize the input again, starting the next cycle. Due to the cuadratic hysteresis we have to apply only a small amount of input power to bring the core again into the saturation region, less than the energy which can be extracted during the work cycle. I hope this helps for clarifying. Vidura.

Vidura

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Vidura posted this 28 February 2020

Maybe I should add that we are using DC pulses, so the left half of the hysteresis loop will not apply, we will not change the sign of the magnetic field, so Hc will not be reached. the core remaining magnetised in the positive half cycle only.

Vidura

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Vidura posted this 29 February 2020

Hey Friends,

It is indeed a very interesting theory. I believe that there has arise some confusion regarding the BH loop. We will see If Yoelmicro can clarify. But if I understood correctly, the theory and the related energy gain is only related to the non linearity of PERMEABILITY. The BH loop, which is actually the AC response of a given core, was only mentioned to point toward a specific property of some core materials, which are required to make benefit of the effect. That is that the relationship between Bsat and Br should be close to 1. So lets see what Yoelmicro has to say, he is actually the transformer expert, which I think is of great benefit for the forum community .

Vidura

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YoElMiCrO posted this 29 February 2020

Hi everyone.
I will try to explain what I understand is happening, I have to say that it is more complex
that this approach, but more than enough.

@ UndisclosedMember.

Yes, it is like that.
With regard to the hysteresis curve it is merely illustrative.
Going deeper into this we can define two areas within the first quadrant.
The area between Br / Bs is solely responsible for storage
of energy, that is why in the Flybak topologies a gap is necessary, because this
Increase the ratio Br / Bs.
And the area within the hysteresis loop, this represents the quality of said material,
It is directly related to the losses of this.
I think an image says more than words:

This is the first circuit I designed to study the phenomenon:

Looking at the material / core datasheet we take the value of H such that it is found
approximately 2Bsat from the first quadrant, after the core we get
the value of the effective magnetic length.
With these values and using the Biot-Sabart law we calculate the number of
turns for that H obtained.

It would be as follows ...

N = (H * le) / (0.4 * Pi * I)

Where:

H = Magnetizing force in oersted (Oe).
I = Current in amper
le = Effective magnetic length in centimeters
N = Number of turns.

The circuit current variation is approximately between 100mA and 2A,
margin more than safe for the TDA2050.
Ideally, apply on 1A and calculate the number of turns using the formula above.
Then we apply at the input a sine function with frequencies between
1Hz ~ 20KHz, we will start with a low amplitude, say 100mV while
We look for a maximum on your way out.
Once that maximum is found we can vary the input amplitude.
Not all materials work, the best are as previously commented
those that the Br / Bs ratio is close to the unit.
These can be of Amorphous, Nanocrystalline or any other type with said characteristic.

@Jagau

If we start thinking ...
Within a deep saturation Ur = Uo and as we know the inductance
related to the solenoid that forms the inductor decreases to the point that now
its value is equal to if it had no core, in this way we can say
that virtually the core is in a vacuum.
During the non-active cycle the core will return virtually again, only that it is
You see that entity will be responsible for your return.
I think it is permeability that is capable of acting as an intermediary in the process
and the inductor would be the collector
I currently believe that E / H are independent and natural entities,
however, as an action / reaction one evokes the other.

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YoElMiCrO posted this 02 March 2020

Hi everyone.

@Jagau.

If you look at the circuit it causes it to work only in the first quadrant.
The variable resistor sets the operating point so that the current is always positive.
I just wanted to see if Ur's negative behavior is real and compare it to the behavior of the Leo Esaki (Tunel) diode.
Looking at this image will be clearer.

The relationship between Br/Bs also dictates the negative slope of a
given material The closer to the unit the greater the slope
and therefore greater amplification thereof.

Regarding the experiment you did, I can say the following.
If you look after turning off the Sw, the drain voltage of the mosfet rises sharply,
but the time that remains is extremely small.
That indicates that now the series inductance is very low and is discharged through
of that new time constant SQR(LC)=t, during this new semi cycle
the mosfet's parasitic diode enters conduction returning energy to the capacitor
of the source and the time that remains negative increases because now you will have to
leave the first quadrant to the third and saturate the nucleus in that quadrant.
And so while there is energy left in the capacitor.
Explain why so low current.
Good demonstration of nonlinearity in inductance.
Thank you.

YoElMiCrO.

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Vidura posted this 12 March 2020

Hey friends,
find here the images from the ferro resonance test with a silicone steel core. It is a part recycled from a stator of a universal motor, a toroid in two halves. Unexpectedly the frequency for the best working point was much higher than in the previous test with the ferrite, around 25khz. Although the core remains cold all the time.

The upper trace is the voltage on the second lightbulb, the lower trace on the mosfet drain.

the last shot current thru the bulb(5A/div) vs. voltage(upper trace)

Regards VIDURA.

Vidura

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YoElMiCrO posted this 23 March 2020

Hi everyone.

As I commented earlier, with the circuit I made I could
perform innumerable physical tests that were corroborating the hypotheses
varied that arose on the actual operation of the circuit with two TL494 from Akula.
After doing a lot of analysis this is the best approach.
I will try to explain its operation as simple as possible!
The circuit in question is that of the two TL494s, I think flashlight # 3.

It has a TL494 in free osc mode, frequency and duty cycle are controlled.
the duty controlled from pin 4 which controls the dead-time when configured
in push-pull mode, pin13 to Vref.
It is configured in common mode, since pin 13 at ground potential.
In this way we can control the duty 0 ~ 100%.
This free oscillator is key in its operation, but now we will see it.
The following TL494 is a Boost-Converter whose duty does not exceed 50%,
This is in charge of keeping its operation stable through the control loop,
which modifies the duty inversely proportional to the output voltage.

This is my point of view on the concept of operation.
This circuit involves two concepts, one that is already known and the other still under study.
The first one tries to have the least loss, (better efficiency) and it goes away that
reaching a maximum BH/2 magnetic energy is better to increase it cycle by cycle.
The second is about the negative region of ur.

It happens as follows ...
The free oscillator circuit causes increments of 100Gaus for example.
Your duty in question will be such that EdcTon = VfbToff and the stored energy
BH/2 will return to the input capacitor, this way the source will only have to
provide the energy of losses of the circuit and its consumption will be very low.
Now the Boost-Converter is participating.
It has a lower frequency such that its maximum duty (also controlled
from pin 4) fit the number of free oscillator pulses needed that
increase the energy discreetly until B is such that its ur is maximum.
As the two coils have the same phase, during the time that it is active
the primary with the highest number of turns (the Boost-Conveter), the one with the fewest turns will see a short
during the toff cycle and will not be able to release stored energy BH/2
because EdcTon is now unequal to VfbToff.
This causes the current to increase cycle by cycle, just as the Boost-Converter applies
Toff the short seen by the free oscillator is no longer, this causes all the
stored energy release, but remember that this oscillator is free.
During this Boost Toff time the tension in the free osc mosfet drain
it will be higher than Edc and its next cycles over saturate the core making it pass
by the negative slope of ur, in this way during the Toff time of this oscillator
free the flyback voltage peak (Vfb) in the drain will be of various magnitudes (So
protection in the mosfet drain) while the energy stored in the area lasts
left of the hysteresis (Br/Bs) until it is completely delivered to the
Input Load/Capacitor.
It is this energy that added to the stored BH/2 causes the AU.
Now we have an energy that comes from the ferrite itself + the one that we previously stored
cycle by cycle.
This explains the reason for a gap in the ferrite.

I will make a final circuit with discrete ICs and when it is 100% functional
I'll post it so all can replicate it.

I hope serve something.
Thank you in advance.

YoElMiCrO.

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